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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      There is no versus. O365 is subscription licensing from MS. Office 2013 is available via volume pricing, the "card" retail way or subscription from O365. All the same product, just three different ways to pay.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        There is no versus. O365 is subscription licensing from MS. Office 2013 is available via volume pricing, the "card" retail way or subscription from O365. All the same product, just three different ways to pay.

        Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          The big deals with O365 are...

          • You get Pro Plus and basically nothing else. If you only want Word, this isn't for you.
          • You get the very latest, always. You never have anything "old". Office 2016 is already available.
          • You get the "latest" even before it is released. You are literally a month or two ahead of the lagging market as a promotion to get people to see more value on O365.
          • You embrace Microsoft's intended way of handling MS Office. They have made it very clear that while other options exist, O365 is how they want you to be working with them.
          • O365 is very tied to users rather than devices. Each user gets give desktop and laptop installs!
          • O365 includes mobile apps for iOS and Android inclusive.
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

            Correct. Nothing like that.

            That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you get the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @MattSpeller said:

              Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

              Correct. Nothing like that.

              That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you get the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

              Ugh thank you, that was driving me nuts. Thank you!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                It's not bad, I use it when I work on Linux (which is more or less always.) Does the trick for basic users. Nice that you can access it anywhere, anytime.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  It's not bad, I use it when I work on Linux (which is more or less always.) Does the trick for basic users. Nice that you can access it anywhere, anytime.

                  We get a monster discount / free stuff, but only parts of O365 so you've helped me greatly to sort through and narrow down. I think we'll stay with 2013 this year and look at O365 next year for just office stuff, no hosting or bells/whistles.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

                    Correct. Nothing like that.

                    That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you can get the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

                    FTFY

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

                      Correct. Nothing like that.

                      That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you canget the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

                      FTFY

                      Can you get it without the on premises?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

                        Correct. Nothing like that.

                        That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you canget the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

                        FTFY

                        Can you get it without the on premises?

                        yeah, maybe not in the E series, but the SMB series yes.. I do in fact through NTG.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          Ok thank you - so it's nothing like google's browser based offerings? Still install as usual and go?

                          Correct. Nothing like that.

                          That does exist. But that's a different thing. If you get Office 365 E3 (Hosted Exchange, Skype for Business, SharePoint, ODFB and Office) then you get both on premises Office 2016 as well as the Sharepoint-powered Office Online. So yes, there is something like Google's online offering, but it is not a "versus" situation. In any situation where you can get the online version, you canget the on premises as well. So it isn't "this or that" it is "this or this AND that".

                          FTFY

                          Can you get it without the on premises?

                          yeah, maybe not in the E series, but the SMB series yes.. I do in fact through NTG.

                          Oh, did not know that. I never look at those and was not aware that they added that option.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned
                              last edited by

                              Yeah office online is in all of them, Exchange Online is the only one where online versions of Office are missing.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

                                That a limited version of Office apps though.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

                                  That a limited version of Office apps though.

                                  Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                                    What I mean is that I also have the $5 plan, and the online versions they give you are limited in what they can do.

                                    For example, you can't freeze panes in Excel. You have to use desktop Excel for that.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Deleted74295
                                      last edited by

                                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                                      Yeah office online is in all of them, Exchange Online is the only one where online versions of Office are missing.

                                      Actually the Office Pro Plus package also does not include the Online Apps either.

                                      Which reminds me...

                                      Why the hell does MS include the Office Pro Plus only option in their list of O365 offerings, but purely hosted Exchange for $4/m/u is not - hmm.. because they don't really want to sell it? they really want to sell the package only deals? hmmm.

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                                      • KellyK
                                        Kelly @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Just so we're on the same page, in the SMB packages for $5/month I get hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, ODfB, Skype for Business and the online version of Office apps.

                                        That a limited version of Office apps though.

                                        Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                                        The set of features available to the online version, save concurrent editing, is a subset of the local install. To most, the semantics would point to the online version being a crippled version of the local install.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Or are you saying the "Office Online" they give you in the $5 is the same they give you in the higher priced package that includes desktop installs?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Not limited, it's online. Different products. I could equally call the on premises limited because you have to install it. What matters is that they are two different things, not one being a crippled version of the other.

                                            What I mean is that I also have the $5 plan, and the online versions they give you are limited in what they can do.

                                            For example, you can't freeze panes in Excel. You have to use desktop Excel for that.

                                            Well sure - but as Scott said - they are their own product. Sure they share the name Excel - but it's Online Excel, versus locally installed Excel.

                                            and those features will come, it's just going to take time.

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