Windows 7/8.1 EOL
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@IRJ said:
@Kelly said:
@Dashrender said:
@Kelly said:
That is correct.
I'm sorry, what is correct?
"Windows 7 will continue to be supported for security, reliability, and compatibility through January 14, 2020 on previous generation silicon. Windows 8.1 will receive the same support through January 10, 2023. This includes most of the devices available for purchase today by consumers or enterprises."
We are already in the phase for Windows 7 where all Microsoft is required to supply are security updates. So they'll drop the reliability and compatibility options for new things, but that doesn't mean that a new security update wouldn't work on Skylake - at best, as Scott is saying is that maybe - maybe if you have a problem with a security patch and you're on a system with Skylake, MS won't give you support.
But the chances are that it will work just fine.
As for supported versus not supported - when was the last time anyone here called MS for support on a desktop client? Other than asking for a download from a KB I found myself - I've never called them for support.
You asked a question and I was responding to it with my "You are correct." I hope you are right. I'm just reading their statements, and proceeding accordingly. I am going to proceed on the assumption that any hardware running SkyLake 6th gen or newer needs to be running Windows 10. You might be able to still get patches, from a business perspective it isn't worth the risk in my mind.
Microsoft could easily not give any updates to hardware running Skylake just as easy. If skylake=no updates is entirely possible and easy enough for Microsoft to implement.
This would be unprecedented and probably cause reasons for lawsuits. MS has claimed that they will provide security updates until 2020. While it's true, that maybe they could do this, I just don't see it happening.
What I do see happening is Windows 7/8.1 not supporting all features in Kaby Lake. But again, assuming the typical Intel backward compatibility paradigm, while new features might not work, I would expect that you could install them on Kaby Lake.
Of course, we're running into architectural changes such as UEFI that older OSes have a hard if not impossible time dealing with.
This is probably an additional root why MS is making these statements. Windows 7 does not deal well with UEFI, MS had to do some substantial coding to make it work so it's been reported, I can understand their desire to not do that for any more new chips.
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@Dashrender said:
@IRJ said:
@Kelly said:
@Dashrender said:
@Kelly said:
That is correct.
I'm sorry, what is correct?
"Windows 7 will continue to be supported for security, reliability, and compatibility through January 14, 2020 on previous generation silicon. Windows 8.1 will receive the same support through January 10, 2023. This includes most of the devices available for purchase today by consumers or enterprises."
We are already in the phase for Windows 7 where all Microsoft is required to supply are security updates. So they'll drop the reliability and compatibility options for new things, but that doesn't mean that a new security update wouldn't work on Skylake - at best, as Scott is saying is that maybe - maybe if you have a problem with a security patch and you're on a system with Skylake, MS won't give you support.
But the chances are that it will work just fine.
As for supported versus not supported - when was the last time anyone here called MS for support on a desktop client? Other than asking for a download from a KB I found myself - I've never called them for support.
You asked a question and I was responding to it with my "You are correct." I hope you are right. I'm just reading their statements, and proceeding accordingly. I am going to proceed on the assumption that any hardware running SkyLake 6th gen or newer needs to be running Windows 10. You might be able to still get patches, from a business perspective it isn't worth the risk in my mind.
Microsoft could easily not give any updates to hardware running Skylake just as easy. If skylake=no updates is entirely possible and easy enough for Microsoft to implement.
This would be unprecedented and probably cause reasons for lawsuits. MS has claimed that they will provide security updates until 2020. While it's true, that maybe they could do this, I just don't see it happening.
What I do see happening is Windows 7/8.1 not supporting all features in Kaby Lake. But again, assuming the typical Intel backward compatibility paradigm, while new features might not work, I would expect that you could install them on Kaby Lake.
Of course, we're running into architectural changes such as UEFI that older OSes have a hard if not impossible time dealing with.
This is probably an additional root why MS is making these statements. Windows 7 does not deal well with UEFI, MS had to do some substantial coding to make it work so it's been reported, I can understand their desire to not do that for any more new chips.
How many unprecedented things have seen this year and last year? It really wouldn't surprise me. If you want to move everyone to a new OS you have to make a stand somewhere and somehow.