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    • coliverC
      coliver @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      @anonymous said:

      @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

      The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

      I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

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        Alex Sage @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        @johnhooks said:

        @anonymous said:

        @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

        The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

        I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

        I did too....

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @anonymous said:

          @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

          The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

          I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

          From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @johnhooks said:

            @coliver said:

            @johnhooks said:

            @anonymous said:

            @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

            The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

            I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

            From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

            It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous said:

              I thought CentOS7 was using firewalld, not iptables?

              I've been out getting groceries but... firewalld uses iptables, doesn't replace it. Whenever I see firewalld, iptables is still there.

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                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                  last edited by

                  @anonymous said:

                  @JaredBusch Do you know of anyway to compare the two installs to see what packages are different? It would be interesting to know.

                  rpm -ql >> list

                  On each box. The do a diff on the two lists.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                    Ah, it is installed but not running.

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                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Right, so basically your whole box is exposed right?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        @anonymous said:

                        @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                        The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                        I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                        From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                        It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                        http://www.firewalld.org/

                        If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                          Ah, it is installed but not running.

                          no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by coliver

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @anonymous said:

                            @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                            The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                            I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                            From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                            It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                            http://www.firewalld.org/

                            If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

                            That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

                            Ok right from their main page - apparently my Google Fu isn't very good today:

                            Support for iptables, ip6tables, ebtables firewall backends

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                              Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                              He is talking about iptables...

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                And it is there in the minimal from DVD ISO.. So that is bad on CentOS for not having minimal be the same.

                                https://i.imgur.com/WjxQaYT.jpg

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                                  Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch Can you see what else is missing?

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                                    Alex Sage
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                                    Need to know if I need to rebuild all my servers 😞

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                                      Alex Sage
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                                      So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                        Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                        no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

                                        The firewall (iptables) is installed according to @anonymous screen shot. And on a new build from an hour ago that I am testing. But firewalld (the management tool) is not. But iptables won't start, which is the bigger problem. It looks like no scripts for starting it are installed.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @Alex Sage
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                                          @anonymous said:

                                          So I guess the lesson I learned is always use the full DVD???

                                          Or at least be really sure of whats on each version

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                                            Alex Sage @MattSpeller
                                            last edited by Alex Sage

                                            @MattSpeller a minimal install should be minimal install regardless of media used.

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