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    P2V from Lenovo Laptop to Recover PST

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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @dafyre
      last edited by

      @dafyre said:

      Pull the hard drive out and just search for the email files? (Does Live Mail use PST?)

      Generally you have to export it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Those files are stored on there somewhere, just need to figure out what the format is or the file name is and grab it.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Use Clonezilla to make an image, then restore that image into a VM, then do what you want.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
            last edited by

            You might could get away with clonezilla as @Dashrender suggested and then run a repair if it blue screens on boot.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Use Clonezilla to make an image, then restore that image into a VM, then do what you want.

              I considered that but wasn't sure if I could use Clonezilla offline.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
                last edited by dafyre

                Yea. Clonezilla works mostly offline... You only need Network if you want to save the image to another server.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  Yea. Clonezilla works mostly offline... You only need Network if you want to save the image to another server.

                  Yeah, I just thought about that and realized how stupid I just was. Ugh, I'm tired this morning...

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by dafyre

                    @thanksajdotcom We'll blame it on too much Turkey over the weekend.... Or Lenovo. We can always blame it on Lenovo. 🙂

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      No worries, we all get stuck on crazy little things at times... Well maybe not Scott, but the rest of us normals. 😉

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        No worries, we all get stuck on crazy little things at times... Well maybe not Scott, but the rest of us normals. 😉

                        I'm downloading the latest Clonezilla ISO and I'm going to give this a go in just a minute. Ok, so does anyone know an easy way to restore Clonezilla to either Hyper-V or Virtualbox?

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          No worries, we all get stuck on crazy little things at times... Well maybe not Scott, but the rest of us normals. 😉

                          Right...

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Just remember if you decide to restore as a VM rather than just reading the files that you have done a P2V migration and you now have VDI and the customer owes VDI licensing which would include an upgrade to Pro and annual fees. You should not be talking about VMs here. Just attach the drive or an image of the drive to another machine and read the files. Don't violate MS licensing on behalf of customers or your workplace and if ordered to do do, it is your professional duty to inform the BSA and the state attorney general's office.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Just remember if you decide to restore as a VM rather than just reading the files that you have done a P2V migration and you now have VDI and the customer owes VDI licensing which would include an upgrade to Pro and annual fees. You should not be talking about VMs here. Just attach the drive or an image of the drive to another machine and read the files. Don't violate MS licensing on behalf of customers or your workplace and if ordered to do do, it is your professional duty to inform the BSA and the state attorney general's office.

                                His end goal is to recover files from a system that won't boot, not allow the customer to access it remotely. How does that cause it to become VDI?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  His end goal is to recover files from a system that won't boot, not allow the customer to access it remotely. How does that cause it to become VDI?

                                  His goal is a red herring. It is his actions that cause the issue. You can't P2V Windows desktops OSes without going into VDI. See all of @BRRABill's threads about this exact use case the past few weeks, even Microsoft has been on the threads. Using virtualization as a backup and recovery method falls under VDI and the licensing is intense.

                                  He has methods open to him to do this without virtualization and the customer had options before getting to this point.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    The VDI bit is a little confusing. Technically the OS cannot be virtualized - period. It's a Home OEM version (we can assume.) Both home and OEM versions cannot be virtualized or made into VDI. So this would be a violation of the licensing in even more concrete ways.

                                    Bottom line, no matter how you look at it, virtualization cannot be used here.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Scott is of course correct. So if you can recover the files directly, great - frankly that would be a ton easier anyhow, just slave up the drive to another system and pull the files, import them into something else, you're done.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ
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                                        Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

                                        I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

                                        http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @IRJ said:

                                          Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

                                          I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

                                          http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

                                          That assumes the user is using Outlook.com and not a third party like say Cox.net etc.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

                                            That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

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