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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      i think that backing up the C drive is sufficient to backup the system image without backing up every thing

      Why would you not want to back up everything?

      Or better question.... why are you storing data you don't want backed up?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @dafyre said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
        it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

        No, if you need to restore the Excel file, you can restore just that file.

        you mean that during the restore process (in the mode entire computer), i will have the possibility to select which item to restore ??

        Given that they do a file level backup, must this not be true?

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        • coliverC
          coliver @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
          it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

          It allows you to restore individual files from that image level backup.

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            IT-ADMIN @coliver
            last edited by IT-ADMIN

            @coliver said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
            it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

            It allows you to restore individual files from that image level backup.

            oook that is the answer that i'm looking for, thank you @coliver
            in this case having an entire computer schedule backup will be ok and can be restored to : system image or data (it depend on the selection)
            i think i'm ready to go 🙂

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              having only one schedule backup of entire computer allows us to restore system image and data in the same time

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                having only one schedule backup of entire computer allows us to restore system image and data in the same time

                Yes, but to do a FULL or Bare Metal restore, you will need to make the Recovery ISO and burn it to a USB or DVD that will boot your computer and connect you to the storage where your backups are located (IE: If they are on a NAS somewhere).

                (Veeam offers to do this for you at the end of the installation or the first time you run it, if I remember right)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  having only one schedule backup of entire computer allows us to restore system image and data in the same time

                  That is ONE thing that it allows.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                    it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

                    It allows you to restore individual files from that image level backup.

                    I said that 😉 It should that right in the screenshot that he provided.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      having only one schedule backup of entire computer allows us to restore system image and data in the same time

                      Yes, but to do a FULL or Bare Metal restore, you will need to make the Recovery ISO and burn it to a USB or DVD that will boot your computer and connect you to the storage where your backups are located (IE: If they are on a NAS somewhere).

                      (Veeam offers to do this for you at the end of the installation or the first time you run it, if I remember right)

                      yes you are right, i already created a veeam USB recovery media

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                        IT-ADMIN
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                        if the system broke and cannot boot, i will plug my bootable USB and point to my restore point in the NAS, and i'm done

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          now i'm trying the mode : Entire Computer on my PC (about 70 GB in C and 30 GB in D), when the backup finish i will see if i can restore only one file in the D drive.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            because before i setup a schedule backup only for the C volume, i thought it was enough to backup only C volume to get system image

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                              IT-ADMIN
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                              by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

                                Yes, Veeam does compression.

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                                  IT-ADMIN @coliver
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                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

                                  Yes, Veeam does compression.

                                  but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

                                    Yes, Veeam does compression.

                                    but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

                                    ~50% compression? That's pretty good. At one of my last positions we had 66% compression and deduplication. I don't think %50 is out of the ordinary.

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                                      IT-ADMIN @coliver
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                                      @coliver said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      by the way i have seen a strange thing when i backup my C volume, the original C volume has 70 GB and the backup has 33.6 GB ? is it compressed or what ??

                                      Yes, Veeam does compression.

                                      but compression from 70 to 33.6. wooow

                                      ~50% compression? That's pretty good. At one of my last positions we had 66% compression and deduplication. I don't think %50 is out of the ordinary.

                                      great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                                        It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

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                                          IT-ADMIN @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                                          It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                                          Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

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                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by IT-ADMIN

                                            because it must be, because sometime we want to restore due to a virus took over the whole system and we want the system image to format everything so that we can put the restore point in a clean server

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