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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      It's a matter of reliability.

      Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

        Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

        Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            It's a matter of reliability.

            Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

            Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by DustinB3403

              Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

              At RAID 6

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                At RAID 6

                So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        For everyone's reference:

                        WD Red is consumer, 5400 RPM
                        WD Red Pro is consumer, 7200 RPM
                        WD RE is enterprise, 7200 RPM

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                          So larger drives would be needed.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                            So larger drives would be needed.

                            Then going to 30TB would be good.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              If you splurge to $2,352 you can leap to the 4TB RE drives and suddenly you have 40TB to work with!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Now that remains SATA. If you are worried about performance the 4TB WD RE SAS drives will give you a huge boost in random access and only cost $2,436. Now that much more.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  And, of course, to overwhelm you with options, you could get WD RE 6TB drives and get 8 of them. This would be much slower and give you 36TB today in RAID 6. But over time you could grow up to 60TB in that setup. Up front 36TB cost would be $3,280.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    So 3TB Drives RAID 6.

                                    No write performance though from the RAID.

                                    Off Hypervisor, over the internet at 5841GB (30MBps pipe Asymetric) ...
                                    Weekly.... would take 21 Days to perform a single backup operation... (roughly)

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm thinking our internet performance would have to take a huge leap as well for off site.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        At those speeds you don't care about the write penalties of the RAID 6, you just need enough performance to take the WAN pipe speeds, which is almost nothing.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          At least for weekly full backups. But if we only backup the primary drive (once a month)

                                          We would reduce our storage needs, as well as bandwidth needs.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:
                                            (30MBps pipe Asymetric) ...

                                            I assume you mean 30Mb/s. 30MB/s is 240Mb/s!! That would be pretty awesome.

                                            If asymmetric, what is the full speed up and down?

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