@hellonadya said in Team Collaboration Tools:
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The only thing about OnlyOffice Community is that I found it to be a pain to install... The document server needs to be separate from the community server ..
Hi,
There should be a Data Migration option in the Google Apps Admin dashboard ...
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
@scottalanmiller ... okay, now my point (at the cost of sounding flaky) ...
I feel, the entire "Yogi not eaten for 70 year" is rather implausible .. but, it did gain a lot of attention (In india atleast) , just as Irom's "No Tasting food" strike of 16 years did ... Difference being, that Irom's strike (whether fake or not, whether right or not) made a lot of people stand-up and take notice of an issue that was rather unknown, or faced indifference .. It made people think ... it made them question ..
I totally get that that idea is valuable. What I'm wondering is.... did it do more to get attention for the law or for the person? Would something else have gotten more attention for the law than doing this? Something that might have changed it? And also, why are people paying attention to people doing this rather than paying attention to the laws in the first place?
here's another way of looking @ it ... Yes, her actions DID get HER a lot of attention, and through her the issue, the cause, and the draconian law did too ..
Historically, every cause, every revolution, has had a champion, a poster-boy/girl ...
I don't see people say ..."Oh what Martin Luther King did was mostly to draw attention to himself ... what he did, did very little for African-American civil rights" ...
@scottalanmiller ... okay, now my point (at the cost of sounding flaky) ...
I feel, the entire "Yogi not eaten for 70 year" is rather implausible .. but, it did gain a lot of attention (In india atleast) , just as Irom's "No Tasting food" strike of 16 years did ... Difference being, that Irom's strike (whether fake or not, whether right or not) made a lot of people stand-up and take notice of an issue that was rather unknown, or faced indifference .. It made people think ... it made them question ..
fake or not fake ...did it get any of you guys thinking of possibility ? or just how absurd it is ?
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
What's also fishy is that they wait for seventy years to point out that they have this miracle going on? That's weird. Why wasn't this making headlines continuously since the second month? That someone goes one month without food, that doesn't make news. But two months, even for a serious yogi, that's gonna break some records. People would be talking about this, everyone would be monitoring and doing so for decades. It would always be in the news and well known. It wouldn't suddenly pop up after seventy years.
well, this is India ... there're places in India, where people still don't have access to water or electricity .... So, years ago, this guy could've been holed-up in some village, and while he may have been popular in his village, he may have been unknown to the rest of country ...
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
don't get me wrong guys.. . I don't believe in blind fate .. I'm from the same field as you'll which is governed by logic and facts ... I would not have mentioned this, if I did not have credible facts to back it up...
I could post similar articles on this guy, from some other credible INTERNATIONAL publications
Infact, I'm still not convinced about this guy ... India has a lot of these so called "Yogis", "God-men", "Holy-men", and most of them are posers ...
don't get me wrong guys.. . I don't believe in blind fate .. I'm from the same field as you'll which is governed by logic and facts ... I would not have mentioned this, if I did not have credible facts to back it up...
I could post similar articles on this guy, from some other credible INTERNATIONAL publications
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
Yes, house wives everywhere do it very poorly, but the pants look great.
well, I guess that's how deep the west thinks of yoga, and probably most other things .. sad..
also, have you guys in the WEST heard of Yoga ?
I've been reading-up on this guy, for a while now, and it seems unreal to me ... but, check this out ...
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
Sure she "helped" get it partially repealed, but how much sooner might it have been repealed if she had not done this? Maybe much sooner. Sixteen years is a long time.
That's a point I was trying to make as well, if she would've used that time in politics, she could've done a lot more. Maybe her hunger strike did call attention to it, fine, but India needs more politicians who care about things, she's not helping at all by literally doing nothing and saying "I'm on a hunger strike, now you go and do something about this law."
As I said, and I was serious, I hope she can do a lot better as a politician and I imagine she will. The problem is though later on any future political successes with her will be linked with this hunger strike. So future people wanting to make change won't start with the best route which actually did it, but instead just another hunger strike.
At the time, she went on a hunger strike, was a nobody ... In the 16 years that she was on a "fasting strike" (I hope this term is acceptable to you'll), she helped get the cause a lot of much deserved attention ...., After 16 years, she must have realized that she has now gained a lot of support ,in terms of people who'd follow her, which would translate into votes, which may put her in a position, where she may be able to influence some change ... just a theory ... does it sound plausible ?
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet You can't defend her fast as absolute (and even still in progress, oddly enough), then when called on it back off to talk about forced feeding tubes. If you cared about facts, why didn't you mention that from the beginning?
pardon me, if I was under the impression that I was part of a forum of intelligent peers
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
she was put under-arrest, but was in a hospital, with a Ryles tube which went directly into her stomach, through which she was fed a form of rice slurry ... all this against her will, cause as per Indian law, going on a hunger strike is akin to suicide, which is a crime ...
Same in the US, which is why it is seen as an act of selfishness and self-aggrandizement and an act against the thing that they claim to support. It's seen as someone attempting to capitalize on the suffering of others. Just an attention seeking problem. It doesn't make people feel sorry or change their minds, it makes them upset about how selfish that person is being. It doesn't draw attention to the law that needs to be changed, it draws attention to the individual.
Thanks to Irom, the issue did get some attention ... She inspired other around the country to take-up this cause .. If not in her state, the govt. did withdraw AFSPA from several other regions ..
What saddens me is how some of you guys , were so quick to to call her a fake, without getting the fact straight... No one even cared about the sacrifice this person has made.
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
she was put under-arrest, but was in a hospital, with a Ryles tube which went directly into her stomach, through which she was fed a form of rice slurry ... all this against her will, cause as per Indian law, going on a hunger strike is akin to suicide, which is a crime ...
OK that makes more sense than an IV drip.
Yes, definitely a terminology problem there. I had heard IV and I thought for sure that I had seen IV in the news. But a tube makes way more sense.
I'm glad ... you guys should get your facts right, before judging ..
she was put under-arrest, but was in a hospital, with a Ryles tube which went directly into her stomach, through which she was fed a form of rice slurry ... all this against her will, cause as per Indian law, going on a hunger strike is akin to suicide, which is a crime ...
@scottalanmiller said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
wow, not only are you arrogant, you ignorant too ... why don't you read-up on her, and how she fasted, before spewing your putrid puke all over this thread ... your profile name seems rather apt now - "tonyshowoff" ... POSER !!
What do you mean? She was on an IV drip, correct? What are we missing about the case?
Yep, which was forced into her ...
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
@Veet said in First Thing Tasted?:
@tonyshowoff said in First Thing Tasted?:
I don't know of any of the gurus or anyone involved in the long hunger strikes or religious fasts that go on for decades that aren't just frauds. Plenty of them have been found to be cheating on hidden camera and so forth. There's just some things the human body is incapable of. I usually use Bobby Sands as a measuring tool, if it was longer than that I'm sceptical, but if it's longer than the morbidly obese guy who drink nothing but water and took vitamins for 1 year for the BBC or Channel 4 years ago, then I pretty much say: it's a lie, they're full of it.
16 years? Yeah right. Not only that, like @RojoLoco said, it was a waste, the goal wasn't even accomplished, so why is this failure even talked about?
My honest guess is, she just got tired of hiding her food eating and lying about it, maybe she wants to go out to eat at restaurants or something,.
This is the real deal, m8 ... btw ... just because she's ended her fast, does not mean that she has stopped fighting against AFSPA (Armed Force Special Powers Act) .. AFPSA was introduced by the Indian Govt. to give the Army, so called "Special Powers" in certain areas termed as "Disturbed"... AFSPA gives anyone from the the armed forces, right such as
"After giving due warning, an officer is allowed to open fire or use other kinds of force even if it causes death."
"To arrest anyone without warrant who has committed cognizable offences or is reasonably suspected of having done so. "
"Army officers have legal immunity for their actions. There can be no prosecution, suit or any other legal proceeding against anyone acting under AFSPA."
"This draconian law is widely misused by the armed forces .. There have been numerous instances where innocent civilians have been killed, arrested & tortured, and woman raped... "
What Irom will now do is fight as being part of the system, rather than fro the outside ..
Just because I criticise her fast as pretty much impossible, does not mean I am defending this law at all, I never defended it or said it was a good thing, so don't move the goal posts, poison the well, etc. I want to know how someone could have essentially no calorie intake for 16 years and still look pretty healthy when even anorexics who basically do the same thing do not, even though many of them eat from time to time. Yeah, and magic isn't real so it's bull plop.
Her nonsense and lies have nothing to do with the law, on top of the fact she really didn't accomplish her goal, that's an indisputable fact, so it was a waste of time. The goal of her fast was to remove the law, it didn't, what else can be said?
just because she's ended her fast, does not mean that she has stopped fighting against AFSPA
Uh, yeah, I believe it does, when her stated goal for the fast was to remove the law, the law is not removed, so she stops the fast and then says she'll continue to fight it in politics; I'm not sure how else anyone could possibly interpret that.
If she's not fasting anymore, it does mean she's ended her fast, that's how fasting works.
Let's hope as a politician she can do some actual good though, and I'm being serious about that, I'm not being sarcastic at all.
wow, not only are you arrogant, you ignorant too ... why don't you read-up on her, and how she fasted, before spewing your putrid puke all over this thread ... your profile name seems rather apt now - "tonyshowoff" ... POSER !!
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