@thanksaj said:
Am I right @tonyshowoff ?
Definitely. It's easier to warm up than it is to cool down. I'd rather wear a coat than sweat my ass off and be brutalised by sunshine. I don't know why people call those "beautiful days," they're insufferable.
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Am I the only one who likes this weather?
Pretty sure but let me check..... yes. Yes you are the only one.
Nope, I love cold ass weather too, I hate the heat, dear god almighty.
Adult stars have certainly take on unusual names these days, maybe to appeal to the college students
@Doughnut said:
I had an ML account previously but couldn't figure out what I made my credentials or what email I used so I just made a new one
I think you mean the FreeMileyCyrusPix4$$ account you were spamming us all with
@StrongBad said:
Was VBScript mature enough but not PHP? That seems unlikely.
VBScript is just garbage no matter what, but even now, but especially at that time, PHP was considered the worst of the worst, and using anything but it is a good thing. I also think it had something to do with wanting to make it to where the people primarily working on FogBugz didn't have to learn a new language, even though it clearly would've been in their best interest.
@StrongBad said:
@tonyshowoff They'd have to go to hosted. That stuff is so complex and crazy. It's such a fragile design. And made from the worst starting point. Why would anyone put so much effort into writing compilers to good languages just so that they could write code in awful languages?
VBscript cross compiling to PHP? Isn't PHP way better to write?
I honestly have no idea, rewriting it in PHP would've achieved the same level of cross-platform, but in 2004 or so when they did this, PHP wasn't seen as powerful enough, though I guess that's more than ironic because it wasn't power enough to write first hand, but powerful enough to transpile into. Joel Spolsky, though, is way into Microsoft and such, he helped create our friend VBA, and that's probably why.
@scottalanmiller said:
It would have to be, it was pretty rough. And wasn't available for any enterprise OS except Windows (where you would need a license for no reason.) It was written in VBScript and would run on hobby UNIX OSes but no enterprise Linux OS. It was ridiculous. We guessed that they had no idea how software was made, how to write it or what good looks like. So we threw in the tower. Really, from having read about how the product was made, we should never have auditioned it. Not meant for business use, very much just a hobbyist toy from how they approached it.
Well, now it's written in a sort of pseudo-VBScript called Wasabi, with all sorts of additions and it actually transpiles into other languages (such as PHP) so it can run on other OSes, it's pretty nutty, though in the last couple of years Fogcreek has tried to move it all to hosted.
@scottalanmiller said:
@tonyshowoff said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.
I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.
C# is where it's at!
And F#, of course.
Not as much as D minor
Well you know, some people enjoy working with a middle man, it's better than directly dealing with all those corporate guys
@tonyshowoff said:
@Minion-Queen said:
@tonyshowoff what are you using?
PHP, JS, HTML5, and modafinil
If you want more specific:
- Internal PHP framework
- jQuery + Bootstrap 3 and extremely lightweight framework for that web app kinda style, almost went with Ember.js though
- MySQL and CassandraDB, separate schemas (same as DBs in MySQL) for each customer
- Memcached
The software itself is generic under the hood so we can refactor our EHR to be on top of it to just have less to manage. Sort of like how people use WordPress as a sort of framework even fort crazy things like job sites or god knows what.
I should add, for anyone interested, that we also use node.js for the messaging and presence system, since async in PHP is garbage (for now anyway). However if PHP 7 fails to have a strict typing option, we'll likely start refactoring the back end into node.js (in hopes that the coming ECMAScript standard will keep its promises instead; seems like we're going backward into the prototype crap of JS instead of real classes for now) as well or Go, we still until the March feature freeze for PHP 7 then we'll figure out our road map then.
FogBugz is better now than it used to be, but compared to other tools out there it can be lacking, a lot of people seem to do well with it. Joel Spolsky seems to make a lot of money from it, devious, lucky bastard
@Carnival-Boy said:
All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.
I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.
C# is where it's at!
@Minion-Queen said:
@tonyshowoff what are you using?
PHP, JS, HTML5, and modafinil 
If you want more specific:
The software itself is generic under the hood so we can refactor our EHR to be on top of it to just have less to manage. Sort of like how people use WordPress as a sort of framework even fort crazy things like job sites or god knows what.
We used JIRA for a long time until we replaced it with something internal when we bought out another company. We switched to internal Git as well, but Stash was pretty cool, though GitHub's private repo plans aren't that bad and I always liked GitHub's functionality much better.
Plus we used some other Atlassian stuff as well, really though they make agile easy as pretty much possible, but like I said, we've replaced them internally, and eventually we'll offer these things to the public as well.
Kanban is great not just for planning, but even just for an overall view of a project if you've got your specific tasks and details elsewhere, especially useful for huge projects like an ERP.
As far as IDEs go, we use PhpStorm (cross platform), WebStorm (for our JS people), and Visual Studio (for our one person unfortunate enough to manage legacy stuff we inherited).
I'm working on something not too dissimilar, but has more functionality. Funnily though, Zawinski's Law is sort of busted up with this one, that's a common thing now, instead of expanding until there's nothing left to do but read email, instead people start doing that right away.
@coliver Sorry I took too long to edit my previous post, I included a link to a list of grand scale trains, perhaps what you're looking for can be found there.
PS lol, it does make me feel old, at model shops in that section everyone else has at least 20 years on me, or is a small child.
@coliver said:
This is an odd tangent you guys went off on... but I will join in. Not too far from me is a "museum" for 1/4 or 1/5 scale model trains. The ones that grown adults can ride on. If I remember right there are ~30 miles of track associated with this and they have people coming from all over the world to watch these trains go by and to test new designs on a "realistic" surface. I can't remember what it is called I will do some searching.
That's up there above G scale, try these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ridable_miniature_railways#In_the_USA
@scottalanmiller said:
And TT! Don't forget that. Very popular in Europe. It's a great scale.
Yeah TT is pretty popular where I grew up, people there are super smug about it, I on the other hand love HO scale, TT is too small for me, I feel like being able to accidentally swallow an engine isn't very practical, and HO scale is just easier to work with. I really hate O and S scale though, way too big.
@scottalanmiller THERE'S SO MUCH I NEED TO SAY ABOUT O, S, HO SCALE TRAINS AH!!!
