@Aaron-Studer What doesn't load correctly? Can you post screenshots of disabled and enabled so we here can see the difference?

@dashrender

As far as Office365 goes:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/settings-for-pop-and-imap-access-HA102908389.aspx

As far as on-premise Exchange goes, I've never seen or been told you have to disable security of any kind. That's what's confusing me. Why would on-premise work but not Office365? Something just isn't adding up. Working on getting definite answers now.

@scottalanmiller said:

@ajstringham said:

@scottalanmiller I've never seen you have to disable security for on-premise Exchange. I would know.

You do. Obviously, as the issue is lacking TLS.

That would be an interesting question to bring up among the installations team. I'm going to get some confirmation on this. I'll update back shortly.

Friend of mine posted this on Facebook today.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/03/05/bitcoin-firm-ceo-found-dead-in-suspected-suicide/

@scottalanmiller I've never seen you have to disable security for on-premise Exchange. I would know.

@scottalanmiller I understand. But he was saying that changing some settings was supposed to allow you to use Office365 like someone uses their on-premise Exchange, which is confirmed to work natively no problem (on-premise Exchange). That's what I'm saying.

@scottalanmiller said:

@ajstringham said:

@dashrender Yea, it's just weird because I've been told by the installations technical lead specifically that it works on their system (they use Office365) but again, I believe that they have a relay setup and he may be confusing that. Other senior installers that I've talked to have said they aren't aware of it being supported at this time. shrugs

That's not what you said up above. When you quoted them they very implicitly said that it did not support it. You then changed the words around and said that it did. You've delivered two different messages from them. If they said "relay" then they clearly told you that there was no support.

The installers themselves (several) confirmed what I was understanding which was that Office365 is not supported at the moment.
The installers technical lead was adamant that it is as he said they are using Office365 native with their internal appliances. He server he posted though for what they use wasn't smtp.office365.com. It was a bunch of subdomains ending in outlook.com so I'm going to assume it's a relay. He also posted in the chain a KB (internal only at this point) article that shows how to change the port from 25 to 587. So far I have not been successful at getting it to work so I feel that kind of confirms my relay theory and that he may be mistaken in his understanding of possibly how it was explained to him or how he interpreted it. FWIW

@dashrender Yea, it's just weird because I've been told by the installations technical lead specifically that it works on their system (they use Office365) but again, I believe that they have a relay setup and he may be confusing that. Other senior installers that I've talked to have said they aren't aware of it being supported at this time. shrugs

@nic Ok, that's quite interesting. It does explain a lot...

@Nic Is or was or ...?

@Dashrender I am not sure about that but if it's on port 25 that would indicate to me it's off by default. FWIW

@nic Changed the title of the thread. Might have broken your original link.

@Nic What was used before?

@Nic Good to know. Webroot had a very bad rep a few years ago but I must say that they've done an incredible job turning it around. They've managed to pull the hat trick so many companies would like to but refuse to do because the methods required are often considered too extreme.

@Nic That sounds like a lot of software out there. It got in early and even though it's past prime it's so entrenched it's going to take time.

So at SW Austin 2013 I gave a presentation on MSPs with @jimk and @john-nicholson. This is the video of that presentation (working to get the actual video now).

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/446561

My portion starts at about 26:50.

@Katie I don't know how to use them but compared to how different people review them and explain them, Peachtree sounds far more robust albeit having a smaller user base compared to QB.

@scottalanmiller I think your point about turning on TLS is valid. I need to see if there is a way to do that. These all seem like really easy things to just make easier. An input box on the settings page for SMTP that allows you to specify the port number and set TLS as enabled/disabled would not be that hard...

Those white and pink ones with one color as a trimming and the other as the primary with the spots. angels sing LOVE IT!

Those are pretty. By far my favorite flower is the lily though.

I also like calla lilies. Those are not quite as nice as normal lilies but I do enjoy those too.