@coliver said:

First day at new job... waiting for some account credentials.

I always liked the feeling of the first day. Kind of like a first date.

That's weird. I have had them ship a couple things on Saturday at no cost to make the two day for prime. I also just got a business account so I'm going to try that and see how it compares.

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I wonder if you could get ZeroTier running on the EdgeRouter?

It's just amazing to me that you can have thousands of clients hooked up to a virtual network and accessible from anywhere and have ping times of 17ms (lowest I've seen in my tests so far). And with hardly any set up at all.

That's how it's always been We had that we OpenVPN before moving to Pertino and had it with Pertino. If you are doing internal VPNs, the speeds get even better, of course.

I wish you could have devices and users on this like with Pertino, but for free I can't complain.

@scottalanmiller said:

I wonder if you could get ZeroTier running on the EdgeRouter?

It's just amazing to me that you can have thousands of clients hooked up to a virtual network and accessible from anywhere and have ping times of 17ms (lowest I've seen in my tests so far). And with hardly any set up at all.

@scottalanmiller said:

I wonder if you could get ZeroTier running on the EdgeRouter?

Possibly. I haven't used them hardly at all, so I didn't want to chance screwing anything up. I figured I could play around with mine to see what's possible.

Got the EdgeRouter Lite set up at the Doctor's office and also set up all of their clients on a ZeroTier network with NoMachine to replace LogMeIn.

Happy Birthday @Nic

@dafyre said:

You know how to generate a random password? Have an end user try to quit vi.

@scottalanmiller said:

That depends on the perspective. Each is really just a business, one is not a more important business than another.

Unless the customer gives you free pizza, then they're more important.

@Dashrender said:

@johnhooks said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

I've never had any interaction with paid support for Linux. What's the main reason for having it? Is it essentially for C levels to have someone to blame?

Why do people get support for any product? People pay for Windows and VMware support all of the time. Red Hat support, for example, is some of the best in the business. They will do tons for you including patching things that are broken, reading memory dumps and more. They get seriously involved. Support isn't cheap but it's pretty intense. I've never needed to use it, but if you are going to call on them they provide a serious degree of support.

I didn't realize they got that involved. I've only ever dealt with Windows support, once or twice. It left a lot to be desired.

I'm curious about your experience. I've made a handful of support calls for Windows over the years and they all have been anywhere from more than good to OMFG Awesome!

About 13 years ago I was updating Windows at a client in the middle of BFE. It was 11 PM and things where going great, until they weren't. I found myself with a box that wouldn't boot. I spent the next 6 hours on the phone with MS support (the server was booting again in 2-3) fixing issues caused by the Windows update. By 7 AM when employees started rolling in, it appeared everything was good, I took off to get a few hours sleep. I came back around 10 AM to find that there were still a few issues left. I called MS again and they continued to work with me for several more hours and we the problems completely resolved.

While my second major wasn't nearly this treacherous, it was similar in that the MS tech clearly wanted to get my issue solved as much as I did, and we licked it too.

On the server side, I really like MS support!

It wasn't anything major. The one time the motherboard died in a pc and we had an update license on it. We called to see if we could move the license to a new machine and it took about 45 minutes for the guy on the other end to free the license. It very well could have been because he was new, but it just seemed like it was a good while to do something simple.

@scottalanmiller said:

@johnhooks said:

I've never had any interaction with paid support for Linux. What's the main reason for having it? Is it essentially for C levels to have someone to blame?

Why do people get support for any product? People pay for Windows and VMware support all of the time. Red Hat support, for example, is some of the best in the business. They will do tons for you including patching things that are broken, reading memory dumps and more. They get seriously involved. Support isn't cheap but it's pretty intense. I've never needed to use it, but if you are going to call on them they provide a serious degree of support.

I didn't realize they got that involved. I've only ever dealt with Windows support, once or twice. It left a lot to be desired.

I've never had any interaction with paid support for Linux. What's the main reason for having it? Is it essentially for C levels to have someone to blame?

Do you know anyone that pays for Canonical support?

ZeroTier and NoMachine make a great combo.

Just got my EdgeRouter X! I figured it would be bigger haha.

@JaredBusch said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Showing the last response and the response item would be a good start.

And when you expand the quote, do not f with the size, more than one step.

If @scottalanmiller were so inclined he could comment out the

.topic .posts .content blockquote {
font-size: 85%
}

and the

blockquote {
font-size: 17.5px;
}

Also, why in this day and age are we still using px for font sizes and not em?

@dafyre said:

I gotcha. It may be best, then to have the server hosting the software run ZeroTier, and then your other Doctors join your ZeroTier network as well...

But it seems to me that I remember reading somebody didn't want it done that way...

That would have been the easiest, but I can't get access to the application server. It's locked down and the software company has to ssh in to change anything. They won't install any third party packages. But I don't expect them to, that could be a big issue.

@JaredBusch said:

And also crap like this. Probably all related.

That looks like safari isn't rendering the off canvas menu correctly. I suspect you are correct, that might be why it's moving left and right when you scroll up or down.

Edit: I can reproduce this on a desktop if I resize the window. It will scroll to the right to show a red circle.

@scottalanmiller said:

Very weird. I have no idea what that would do.

Oooh maybe to mark the selected as read. There's no box or any icon that shows unchecked though.