Does Veeam Replication create a snapshot though?

Doing local or not isnt really an issue, swimming in spare hard drive space

@Dashrender said:

Can you bring the other NAS onsite to your location, seed the initial backup locally fast, then take it back, and do sync's only?

Yes, and the only reason I havent done this yet is because jobs are running for ~12 hours, failing, having only backed up like 8GB.....not even enough to be an incremental backup yet.

@DustinB3403 said:

@Sparkum Veeam should do this for you.... but as you've describe you're attempting to backup however many VM's you have in one shot, over your 5/5 internet connection.

This will never work.

If you change your backup target from your Retail location, to a on-premise NAS that will create your daily backups.

Fulls or whatever (presumably you're not creating full backups nightly, but maybe) and then on the NAS you create a replicate job to run once the backups are done.

By no means was it in one shot.

I was going server by server, 2 worked successfully, the third the snapshot outgrew the server and crashed it.

My IDEAL would be to be able to do a full virtual backup that I could just turn on if shit hit the fan.

So I guess the next question is then, with what software.

So Symantec has essentially that option built in

"Upon completion replicate to"

But the problem I was having is I would do the backup, and the replication would take so long that 1 or 2 backups would then fail, creating this large snowball affect (That I do assume would eventually fix itself as initial backup completed and we moved onto small partial backups...))

@DustinB3403 said:

@Sparkum But going to one of your retail locations is not the same as going to something on the same LAN.

If you can get a Synology NAS in house with your servers, and backup to that first, and have that push the backups to your retail location you should be better off.

Is there a built in feature with Synology is that why you are saying that/that brand or just simply for the fact that it can sit on the Synology until the backups complete.

@dafyre

We need the speed though.

If the building blows up we drive over and get the data

Sorry I'll add more info to my original post as well.

Yep, backing up 5 hosts (VMWare) with a bunch of VM's each

Its going to one of our retail locations that has just a simple Synology there actually.

"If so can you back them up to a local storage unit like a Synology NAS, and use that as the push device for your off-site?"
I guess the best answer I can give to this is we'll do what we have to

Hey guys.

Hoping someone might have some good suggestions for me.

We are trying to do an offsite backup, we got a dedicated 5/5 line (ya we know not the best line)

I've tried Veeam but the snapshots killed us (literally crashed a server) we use Symantec Backup on site, doesnt seem to be able to handle doing it offsite though.

Any suggestions for something more specifically for long slow transfers, maybe something that caches (where I decide) and not a snapshot

Thanks

EDIT:
Backing up 5 hosts with a bunch of VM's (VMWare)
Backing up to one of our store locations

@Dashrender
Same domain,

And ya its both external and internal communication

@scottalanmiller said:

@Sparkum said:

@scottalanmiller

Correct, they are on a program called Smarter mail, and they use Kingsoft as an office alternative,

I think its a couple hundred bucks a year for 1000 users

Gotcha. At that price, why not use Zimbra for free?

I'll take a look at it thanks!

@scottalanmiller

Correct, they are on a program called Smarter mail, and they use Kingsoft as an office alternative,

I think its a couple hundred bucks a year for 1000 users

@scottalanmiller

If the cashier changed from cashier to kiosk for example they would abandon cashier01, someone else would take it, and they would start using kiosk01

@scottalanmiller

Same name and the number is the store number
So

Car01
Car02
Car03

etc etc etc

@scottalanmiller said:

@Sparkum said:

@scottalanmiller

They go to positions.
So if that person gets fired/quits there's no change on our end.
Just retail so turn over is high.

But, the positions don't have email addresses themselves?

They go to kiosk01, cashier01, car01, installer01, etc

@scottalanmiller

They go to positions.
So if that person gets fired/quits there's no change on our end.
Just retail so turn over is high.

@scottalanmiller

Nope, and its lets say roughly, 20 email addresses per retail location, so currently times something like 36? and growing every year.

@wrx7m

Actual email addresses.

Stuff like kiosk01@ cashier01@ installer01@ etc etc etc

@scottalanmiller

For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.

@JaredBusch

For sure but after 5 years...

$50k vs 14k also considering we already have the office licenses, (not 2013 mind you but most of our users are so light on office it doesn't matter)

Trust me, I 100% understand both sides of this, but I'm not the decision maker or the invoice signer.

@wirestyle22

Benefits of the cloud is its worry free, guaranteed 99.99% up time (typically), and maintenance free.
Then yes electricity, redundancy, internet speeds, etc