he got incarcerated for violating article four of the Geneva convention during a business trip to Guatemala.

@IRJ his name is Aragorn Jemima Stringham. He was born a Jemima's witness, and in his youth he would go door to do asking people if they had a moment to talk about their lord of flavor and encourage people to visit a meeting by handing out flyers called "the flap jack tower".

All of these facts are backed up by nothing.

@IRJ said:

At least one of the SPs is watching this thread and reporting back to the OGs

sure as hell a'int me, after my rant the other day on Mango, it kind of solidified my stance on most of whats going on over there.

Is there a mentality of fanboyism over there? I doubt it'll degrade any time soon. I mean in all honesty my use of the site, my goal of the sites for the longest time was to solve problems, and learn. Many other IT folks joined in and we learned together, we as a whole taught and learned from one another (another shout out to @IRJ and @scottalanmiller ). It was very comforting that I had a safe place to learn. A very "politically correct" feel began to take over the site, vendors started to march in, and the serious nature has begun to turn into a gaming forum. For every 10 serious questions, there are easily 100 water cooler, gaming, and random posts. Its not a place for IT anymore, its becoming a place for the lowest common denominator in IT, people who say they like computers, get jobs doing it, but don't know a damn thing about 'em.

But I can't say I looked at Mango in a high light when I first heard about it either. It came off as a "we're better than you, look at us" kind of feel. Which as I'm looking at it now and discard my blind ignorance, I see that's not true. Mango is the original people from the other site that helped me, and that I liked, tired of the same stuff I am.

You guys are all very awesome :-). Shout out time @PSX_Defector @Nic @Aaron-Studer @Minion-Queen . Literally no point to these shout outs, just wanted to do 'em.

@technobabble said:

@Minion-Queen hmm...are you really saying if you don't get a nap, you might kill someone? LOL! Sometimes I feel like that!

most likely someone who is taking a nap, they're an easy target, hence the life expectancy of nappers being shorter.

Hello everyone, my name is Ryan, some people know me as RAM. just saying hello.

fun fact, lack of documentation is bad. Documenting you're a pillet for the whole world to see is worse.

@coliver said:

@RAM. said:

@IRJ his name is Aragorn Jemima Stringham. He was born a Jemima's witness, and in his youth he would go door to do asking people if they had a moment to talk about their lord of flavor and encourage people to visit a meeting by handing out flyers called "the flap jack tower".

All of these facts are backed up by nothing.

Something isn't quite right there... can't quite put my finger on it though...

@StrongBad said:

Maybe someone will tell Marzipan about this.

AaAaAaAaAaAaA! I was raised by a cup of coffee.

Both what @scottalanmiller and @Nic said a bit of development, and a bit of limited nature. The development part is the part that's really jacking up the price. You're talking years of experiments, years of failed attempts, and years of trying new things. That cost them MILLIONS of dollars, they'll have to recoup that cost somehow, and it'll be reflected in the price of the product.

Can't base purchase price off of cost of materials, if that were true we'd never pay more than $0.05 for a new video game.

@Dashrender is it wise to consider that a social or mental handicap may effect their ability to be wise?

So wise men are only wise when they are always wrong and willing to admit defeat?

Not if that wise man is a know it all and will either yell at you until he realizes he's wrong and vanishes into a puddle of his own sorrow and shame.

LOL this is gold

Whats the cost of admission? Who are the vendors? Who are the key speakers? Which conference place?

SquishyCon

I just started reading a ruby on rails book, I was curious what you thought of http://www.sublimetext.com/ the dude in the book is raving about it.

Side note, I think I'll be doing all my trial and error in a VM, the windows software seems a bit like crap lol.

@thanksaj said:

@RAM. said:

@dengelhardt said:

And I just installed Eset on an updated computer. But, because it can coincide deal me in. One of my customers came to me with Webroot installed and it did a much better job than his Norton equipped PC.

What? I'm just going to throw this out there, only install one anti-virus on a computer at a time... they can't coincide...

Webroot is the exception.

Learn something new every day.... thanks AJeZilla

@dengelhardt said:

And I just installed Eset on an updated computer. But, because it can coincide deal me in. One of my customers came to me with Webroot installed and it did a much better job than his Norton equipped PC.

What? I'm just going to throw this out there, only install one anti-virus on a computer at a time... they can't coincide...

@scottalanmiller said:

@RAM. said:

The reason 4 random words > 1 word in terms of a dictionary attack, or at best a hybrid attack, is based on the fact that 1 word, or 2 words may exist in a dictionary list, but 3 or 4 combined do not exist. A standard dictionary list reads from a list of predetermined potential passwords, everywhere from Mickey1 to Jones1, total crap. Combine the 2 words MickeyJones1 and you'd have to preform a brute-dictionary attack... which as far as I'm aware... doesn't exactly exist. Could it be written? Sure... but wouldn't that be clunky and really hog memory for no reason?

You're stuck with brute force which a 12 character pass would take quite a while.

I expect that it exists somewhere - people are always looking for ways of improving attacks, but even an elegant, hybrid dictionary attack is going to be insanely hard to execute. As the length gets longer, the overall complexity just skyrockets. This length also makes Rainbow Tables ineffective (with today's technology.)

Exactly my point, assuming you were to make a software that does that, and assuming you were using the top 100,000 passwords list (which who doesn't?) extending the potential passwords by a factor of one increases the complexity exponentially. 100,000^X, a 4 word password would have 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 potential combinations, at a billion guesses a second would take 100,000,000,000 seconds, or over 31 years

The reason 4 random words > 1 word in terms of a dictionary attack, or at best a hybrid attack, is based on the fact that 1 word, or 2 words may exist in a dictionary list, but 3 or 4 combined do not exist. A standard dictionary list reads from a list of predetermined potential passwords, everywhere from Mickey1 to Jones1, total crap. Combine the 2 words MickeyJones1 and you'd have to preform a brute-dictionary attack... which as far as I'm aware... doesn't exactly exist. Could it be written? Sure... but wouldn't that be clunky and really hog memory for no reason?

You're stuck with brute force which a 12 character pass would take quite a while.