@MattSpeller yes, this is another option too but batch in order had not so many POE ports and nowdays most phones has POE. Anyway still waiting for a compatibility list, maybe we can simply go the AC adapter way.
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
@MattSpeller a number of new switches were in order, but if I have to revert ALL phones to LAN, well this more or less doubles our ports requirements, therefore the required switches.
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
of course it is a matter of market: if you move in the ICT market your providers are more skilled. but if you work in manufacturing with the S of SMB, what you get is this. It is not supply chain segmentation: it is your employer mindset which casts you to certain type of providers and you have to manage to change the mindset (good luck) and deal with daily issues to be solved.
as example: did you see my VoIP incident?
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
@matteo-nunziati of course when I say windows I mean GUI not powershell. hell, the sysadmin has gone a bit nervous when he seen my server core VM and my hyper-v server install. he asked: are you sure you do not want a gui?
answer: yes please, put a cream topping on it, also!
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
@travisdh1 said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@matteo-nunziati said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@travisdh1 easy&sad: docker is a new technology which is by no means well known here outside the devel circles. no sysadmin is aware of them. so if I have to make something which is expected to survive me, I have to go mainstream. small VM and go...
Containerization a new technology? I had it available in IRIX back in the 1990s, how could it be new?
it is not the tech is how people invest in knowledge. here is just windows server 2012+vmware. P.E.R.I.O.D.
want more knowledge? pass to enterprise level supply chains.
really, even yesterday I've talked with e potential new service provider: it was a microsoft shop. linux? naaa. unix? in the '80... -
RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
@travisdh1 easy&sad: docker is a new technology which is by no means well known here outside the devel circles. no sysadmin is aware of them. so if I have to make something which is expected to survive me, I have to go mainstream. small VM and go...
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
@scottalanmiller of course, if a few phones will be moved to VoIP I will consider injectors, but if the entire network has to be redefined, POE+ switches turn to be cheaper and better manageable than ~40 local injectors.
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
@travisdh1 said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@matteo-nunziati said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@travisdh1 said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@matteo-nunziati said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
not the answer you are seacrhing for. anyway while this is really rude, if I have space, I prefer to create a new disk and use stuff like a live distro to move the system to the new disk, reinstall grub and go...
Yeah, I very much prefer adding another drive myself. But you just don't have to move anything with LVM, just extend the volume group.
I tend to not use LVM in VMs, just because mine are so small that it is realy simple to cp -va /* from live and then chroot and reinstall grub.
I don't like reinstalling grub when I don't have to. And I never have to move/copy anything. Might be doing yourself a disservice in not learning logical volume management (weather that's LVM, btrfs, or zfs.)
It is not about not learning LVM: I use it into the host, for the very purpouse of have flaxibility in storage config/expansion.
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
@PSX_Defector said in the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem:
@matteo-nunziati said in the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem:
Is this going to kill my dog?
Are you a shithead, because in my experience only shitheads kill your dog.
what kind? Some could fit!is there a way to let our PBX silently pass external calls to the new VoIP PBX and let this manage the internal lines dedicated to customer care?
Depends. What you got? Newer PRI based PBX? Old ass key system? One of those Avaya IP Office boxes? Definity? Aspect?
Easiest would be an IAX trunk. Next would be a T1 bridge across. Bad would be piping 20/30 analog lines over to a Rhino breakout box.
EDIT
posted the wrong italian link, fixed now.Neglecting current setup (ISDNx4) we have one of this Aastra 400 PBX (pdf), which, theoretically, can be reconfigured itself for VoIP.
New virtual PBX is asterisk based, this is the only info I have currently.
networking-wise, I will need to double the current order for POE+ switches. wiring could turn into nightmare... or not, depending on the phone solution (some phones can act as a small managed switch, you plug your pc in).
Negecting certifications for a little moment, what about VoIP converters like these?
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
@matteo-nunziati said in the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem:
we have an optic fiber connection which is then split into the rj45 data line (plug into the firewall), the rj45 fax line wiich is managed by a black box (to me) and provides 3 analog fax lines (on copper couples), the rj45 phone line which is managed by another black box and provides 4 UTP analog lines, those enter the PBX.
how the hell a virtual PBX fits in this!?!?!?!?! where do I put the plug? and which plug?OK, just discovered that the ISP will reconfigure apparata and will plug another eth cable into the router, will plug it into another port of the firewall and will dismiss the eth to ISDN 4-line analog stuff. Killing the current setup.
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RE: the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
@Carnival-Boy let say I'm curious, I'm really going to f*** off this company but at least I would like to understand if there was a solution to not destroy something just "because we can".
From another perspective: if a few seats require to switch to VoIP for a given theoretical service, do I need to convert the entire company to VoIP? is this just an all-or-nothing scenario?
My next job maybe would benefit from this knowledge. If they want they can f*** everything: its their money , but one goal of any job to me is to learn something new. asking to throw everything away can be ok. but I will learn nothing new (also because I will not configrure/deploy/provision anything).
Maybe I'm now just learning that you require an entire migration from analog UTP to VoIP, even for a single seat.
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RE: Data archive is not backup! What do you use?
+1 for tar.bz2, you can encrypt it if you want.
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
@travisdh1 said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
@matteo-nunziati said in How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu):
not the answer you are seacrhing for. anyway while this is really rude, if I have space, I prefer to create a new disk and use stuff like a live distro to move the system to the new disk, reinstall grub and go...
Yeah, I very much prefer adding another drive myself. But you just don't have to move anything with LVM, just extend the volume group.
I tend to not use LVM in VMs, just because mine are so small that it is realy simple to cp -va /* from live and then chroot and reinstall grub.
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the missing VoIP, the ERP and the solution in search of a problem
So last december my company signed for a new ERP, so they wanted to buy a package generically described as "integration between VoIP phones and PC to get business info about the incoming call".
So I pointed out that, hell, we do NOT have VoIP in the company, how do you think to deal with this?
Answer: Let's see at the right time. (hint: that was the right time)fast-forward, today I've discovered that:
- the packege is instead a fully asterisk based custom PBX (namely an ESXI VA, hey we have just picked hyper-v, yuppy!)
- we have our own non VoIP analog (mostly UTP) phone system and PBX
- the two are of course in conflict and... the VoIP needs specific certified phone brands/models
- no, we do not have POE switches
me: "hey we do not need another PBX what do you want to do?"
answer: "let ditch current supplier and the whole equippement, including phones installed 6 month ago, and move to the new PBX, buy all the new phones make new cabling/switching, let the ERP provider manage our PBX"h.o.l.y.s.h.i.t
now the "cool-let-see-who-is-at-the-phone" feature is required by more or less 15 people into a 50 people company. Here around 40 between DECT and analog phones are deployed. also some phones runs over phone wiring not UTP.
to me this is an overkill solution in search of a problem.
my questions.
is there a way to let our PBX silently pass external calls to the new VoIP PBX and let this manage the internal lines dedicated to customer care?
is also possible to keep those lines able to forward the calls to other internal phones? Is this going to kill my dog?
we have an optic fiber connection which is then split into the rj45 data line (plug into the firewall), the rj45 fax line wiich is managed by a black box (to me) and provides 3 analog fax lines (on copper couples), the rj45 phone line which is managed by another black box and provides 4 UTP analog lines, those enter the PBX.
how the hell a virtual PBX fits in this!?!?!?!?! where do I put the plug? and which plug?
I would not throw away the entire stack and a trusted supplier just because the ERP feature is cool. Also I do not want an ERP provider to manage my lines...
any suggestion?! (no, job shift is planned for 2018).
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RE: How do I expand/extend VM partion (Xen, Ubuntu)
not the answer you are seacrhing for. anyway while this is really rude, if I have space, I prefer to create a new disk and use stuff like a live distro to move the system to the new disk, reinstall grub and go...
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RE: Ubuntu switching back to GNOME
@scottalanmiller things like bootstrap are all about mouse vs finger, pointer vs touch
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RE: Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding
anyway I hate to say: I was right
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RE: Ubuntu News: Massive Downsizing and Searching for Funding
I think it is just shuttleworth-how-you-write-this who does not want to fund the company more. They are searching for fund raising in the private market.