@scottalanmiller said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@Jason
Not that I am aware of. They are connected by a switch.

You cannot access TCP/IP across two different subnets without something routing traffic.

It is that kind of moment that somehow it works momentary, but you cannot sustain it, but it works, but you don't know how is it working, but it works...

Look at the PC that is broke and the application server. What are their IP settings?

Example:
The server is 192.168.1.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.1.1
The desktop is 192.168.2.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.2.1
Those are two devices on different subnets.

In order to ping from 192.168.2.2 to 192.168.1.2, the system will route it through the gateway because the destination is on another subnet.

In that case I believe our Firewall also act as router. Because we are able to ping ip phones

Your "firewall" is a router with additional firewall capabilities.

That make sense when you put it that way.
So do you think subneting may fix the dns cycle issue? What does a good/clean DNS looks like?

No, subnetting and DNS should not be related. If tehre is a problem like this, likely it will get carried through.

Our DNS was inherited from an old company (same CEO). I do not know what has been done, and I don't usually mess with DNS. All I know is DNS works with DHCP in some way. Is there something I might be missing?

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@Jason
Not that I am aware of. They are connected by a switch.

You cannot access TCP/IP across two different subnets without something routing traffic.

It is that kind of moment that somehow it works momentary, but you cannot sustain it, but it works, but you don't know how is it working, but it works...

Look at the PC that is broke and the application server. What are their IP settings?

Example:
The server is 192.168.1.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.1.1
The desktop is 192.168.2.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.2.1
Those are two devices on different subnets.

In order to ping from 192.168.2.2 to 192.168.1.2, the system will route it through the gateway because the destination is on another subnet.

In that case I believe our Firewall also act as router. Because we are able to ping ip phones

Your "firewall" is a router with additional firewall capabilities.

That make sense when you put it that way.
So do you think subneting may fix the dns cycle issue? What does a good/clean DNS looks like?

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@Jason
Not that I am aware of. They are connected by a switch.

You cannot access TCP/IP across two different subnets without something routing traffic.

It is that kind of moment that somehow it works momentary, but you cannot sustain it, but it works, but you don't know how is it working, but it works...

Look at the PC that is broke and the application server. What are their IP settings?

Example:
The server is 192.168.1.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.1.1
The desktop is 192.168.2.2/24 with a gateway of 192.168.2.1
Those are two devices on different subnets.

In order to ping from 192.168.2.2 to 192.168.1.2, the system will route it through the gateway because the destination is on another subnet.

In that case I believe our Firewall also act as router. Because we are able to ping ip phones

@dafyre said:

@LAH3385 said:

@dafyre said:

@LAH3385 said:

Any alternative to Netwrix? Their pricing is a bit too high for us.

Do you need anything other than the free one?

It is just a notifier right? The Auditor is a paid application. Do they do the same thing?

Good point. I honestly dont' know as I have never used either. I am familiar with Netwrix for a couple of their other free tools.

I'd imagine the Notifier would have some kind of logs in it. I just saw the email this morning and thought of you.

awww how nice of you

@JaredBusch said:

@LAH3385 said:

@Jason
Not that I am aware of. They are connected by a switch.

You cannot access TCP/IP across two different subnets without something routing traffic.

It is that kind of moment that somehow it works momentary, but you cannot sustain it, but it works, but you don't know how is it working, but it works...

I need to expand subnetmask pretty soon. Hoping to do it on long weekend. Give me enough time to fix any problem that may arise.

@Jason
Not that I am aware of. They are connected by a switch.

@JaredBusch said in Symptom of running out of subnet?:

@Jason said:

@LAH3385 said:

@JaredBusch
I am 90% certain it is not enough. Both subnet mask are still /24. I have roughly 170 devices on subnet1 and 90 devices on subnet2.

Is there a router between the two?

Need more coffee... Yeah, you are already on 2 different subnets? Then are you sure you are routing correctly? Also, you will have to be relying on DNS and not NetBIOS if this is really true.

All the devices on subnet2 are statics. They are the phone server and the ip phones. The application in question is to keep log of calls (inbound/outbound/missed/etc)
I did configure a gateways to our Firewall (watchguard) switch. Each subnet has its own gateway.

@JaredBusch
I am 90% certain it is not enough. Both subnet mask are still /24. I have roughly 170 devices on subnet1 and 90 devices on subnet2.

@JaredBusch said:

Cycling DNS has nothing to do with running out of IP addresses in your current subnet.

Assuming that your DNS server properly knows the hostname and IP of the application server, you should never have this kind of problem.

Have you tested that DNS is actually broke when a client cannot connect? I mean is a ping or nslookup returning bad information from a client that cannot use the application?

I had a typo. I meant to say "reside on a different subnet ip address"
I will test ping next time it happens.

Is there a way to start DNS fresh? I inherited it from my predecessor, and we used to do a lot more with IT than just DC.

I asked a question about switching subnets because I believed we are experiencing an issue with subnets. We have an application that is hosted on a server (static) reside on a different IP address. Every day, at least 2 people will tell me they are having connection issue with said application. I will have to run flushDNS and RegisterDNS to fix the issue. It is not much of a bother to me, but the users seem flustered after couple errors.
So what are some of the symptom that may appears under subnet situation?
EDIT: The application reside on a different subnet. Workstation [192.168.1.xx] application [192.168.2.xx]

@dafyre said:

@LAH3385 said:

Any alternative to Netwrix? Their pricing is a bit too high for us.

Do you need anything other than the free one?

It is just a notifier right? The Auditor is a paid application. Do they do the same thing?

Any alternative to Netwrix? Their pricing is a bit too high for us.

@wrx7m
I would not be the best person to answer the question.
But If I were adding a help desk to my team I would give him the same setup as what @brianlittlejohn mentioned previously, but limit access to server via remote desktop. Or Simply deny his account altogether. Other than that I think helpdesk needs admin rights and whatnot.

@scottalanmiller said:

@LAH3385 said:

@dafyre said:

@LAH3385 said:

Beside This kind of Auditing.. is there any other way to audit a folder using third party application? I tested it out and it generated way too many event logs.

If you only need it to run for a few days, then this should be fine...

I don't know of any other utilities that will work for this.

He wants to run it for months.. or forever. Not much of an audit.. more like report. He wants to know EVERYTHING going on in the folder. I just don't know how to put the result into a report at this amount.

Well that is generally just silly, but if that is what he wants... then just give it to him. What's the issue?

He's the kind of guy that ask a question and expect an answer. Like who move this file? He wants a name. without timeframe I can be digging through hundreds of logs.

@dafyre said:

@LAH3385 said:

Beside This kind of Auditing.. is there any other way to audit a folder using third party application? I tested it out and it generated way too many event logs.

If you only need it to run for a few days, then this should be fine...

I don't know of any other utilities that will work for this.

He wants to run it for months.. or forever. Not much of an audit.. more like report. He wants to know EVERYTHING going on in the folder. I just don't know how to put the result into a report at this amount.

Beside This kind of Auditing.. is there any other way to audit a folder using third party application? I tested it out and it generated way too many event logs.

@wirestyle22
yes. everyone. so do I use domain/users?

@wirestyle22
Is it wise to put authenticate users for auditing?

@scottalanmiller said:

Shared drive? Are you asking "how is this done" or are you asking "I'm used to this when it is not shared, but now it is shared, what changes?"

We have a folder where anyone can put anything in it. Think of it like a junk yard. I don't know why we have it but we have it.

@wirestyle22 said:

@LAH3385 said:

How can I set up audit on a share drive? Just to see what have been delete, move, edit, create, etc. I am tasked to create a daily report on one specific folder where they suspect someone is messing with it.

In the security settings you can turn on auditing. In the same area that you give permissions to shared files and folders. You have to select what you want it to audit.

What user or group do I add it? How does it works?

How can I set up audit on a share drive? Just to see what have been delete, move, edit, create, etc. I am tasked to create a daily report on one specific folder where they suspect someone is messing with it.
EDIT: and by who/time/date

After upload a picture to GRavartar... how long before it take effect on ML?