Posts made by jkaspersen

@scottalanmiller well. lets not make this a thin client discussion again... as this post is about million of other devices, .. printer , cams , tv , fuel pumps, factory controllers etc. so how does people deal with those flaws... do they care if the local water supply shut down , or the electricity get shut off...

@scottalanmiller no... i just proves that the concept of unmanaged devices, no matter they type is a bad idear. there is no Zero clients. or Zero maintanace on any equipmment... i have always argumented for that.. . Includes cameras, pumps, tv , anything that has a "pulse"..

two relative new security breaches

https://www.jsof-tech.com/ripple20/ and https://callstranger.com/

the latest is most likely to be explored... but the first can have real consequences in real life.. is this something that you guys take as serious stuff with customers ?

ex Teradici have immediate discontinues their PCoIP firmware for their TERA2 boxes ( that basically all thin client manufactuerer OEMs) , well they made a new firmware. but this TCP stack can be in hundreds of million of devices...

Yes... we have been running the "newest kernel" available for the last years.. currently eLux is on 5.4.x... Advantages is newest hardware support , and much better power managent for our laptop...

disadvantages... is third party kernel stuff using DKMS may not work at first try.... we had quite some trouble with the open source evdi.ko to support DisplayLink device with mobile thin client latops, which must be a "complete workstation" at the office with all the required headset , busylight and triple monitors, and just a normal laptops when brought home...

but a new kernel , and using older "compatible" libaries... is much preferred than to stay on an old kernel...

@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:

world's largest Solaris shop, we had Dtrace

well luckey you then... i dont know when i got knowledge of the old sun os... but i started with ZFS in 14. august 2009 16:25 to be exact. I only worked onece for a semi big company once (back in 1994) .. and that was Data General... ( the one with Aviion and Clariion storage).. but that is just "old tale and long gone company".. but i have been on them All DG/UX HP/UX, SUNos/ Solaris, EP/IX, AIX, SCO and even interactive... and SMOS Supermax operating system... they had hybrid system with both motorola and MIPS in same OS... only danish people can come up with stuff like that... ( i never understood why they did it , just making trouble for you self)

@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:

@scottalanmiller I need to try Illumos then because I need to be more familiar with Solaris.

and google Dtrace.... the most insane debugging tool ever...

@scottalanmiller said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

@jkaspersen said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

forget the ARM... not developed..

Oh, that's too bad.

yes... but it is still the same issue ... where is the volume... as with hardware and thin clients , and with software.. where is the volume... the volume is on X64 hardware.. and not on ARM... i know citrix did some work there... but "others" dont... so the volume is not there.. ps: to my knowledge there we too many firmware updates to the "Texas Instruments" used by Fujitsu.... so we never did a ARM terminal (luckey us)

@scottalanmiller said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

@jkaspersen said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

@scottalanmiller said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

@Dashrender said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

No, because that software is likely more expensive than a Windows license.

All major thin client software is free.

well eLux is FREE, but the management is not .. anyway the reason i linked to the video before is that at least 2 contributors said "not same functionality" "chrome is better" "slow as fuck" "pc desktop is better"... so i just wanted to show it basically possible to have same user experience on a thin client.. with "shitrix" or "PooOip". .. noamally i user the rigth name... but i still wanna be a "gang member"

The management piece is often where the cost is.

You can use eLux effectively on most any "fat" hardware, correct? I see it has an ARM version, does RP4 work?

forget the ARM... not developed.. as the were many "client apps" not made for arm... so it is kind of discontinued... ps: i have to do a lot of cleaning up on my website... so current info is on myelux.com

any yes.... eLux works on "almost" any X64 platform... though wireless drivers can be an issue... rigth now the have a "free everyting" offer if you run it from a USB stick .. until 31. October....

@black3dynamite yup already running it on my laptop... very nice... but i do like ditto blocks for meta data om my M2. SSD... so i have some kind of "resilience" on my laptop...

@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:

Yeah I have read a lot about Zfs, it has some nice features. Ok yeah I didn't even know what Nexenta was. I don't need a gui. Thanks!

that why i mentioned "https://www.illumos.org/ "...which today is more fully fledged than oracles version.. crossbow is also and extra(network stack) ... + the debugging too in illumos.... the debugging tool is though a steep learning curve...

@scottalanmiller said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

@Dashrender said in Is the Physical Thin Client Era Dead?:

No, because that software is likely more expensive than a Windows license.

All major thin client software is free.

well eLux is FREE, but the management is not .. anyway the reason i linked to the video before is that at least 2 contributors said "not same functionality" "chrome is better" "slow as fuck" "pc desktop is better"... so i just wanted to show it basically possible to have same user experience on a thin client.. with "shitrix" or "PooOip". .. noamally i user the rigth name... but i still wanna be a "gang member"

@scottalanmiller

"Hello World"... the name is Jan kaspersen, from Denmark, Europe , Earth.
Been it IT for "too long"... around 40 years.. from when paper terminal still existed and 8" floppy drives were the thing. Currenty i been running my own business "Nextsystem" since 1996. Nextsystem was originaly a normal reseller , but we downgraded to be a "niche producer" of thin clients called NEXterminal. On request we also do some pretty nifty storage systems based on ZFS. When you been 40 years in it, it means i know a bit of everything (general) , and i know everything about "nothing" which is thin clients.

@jmoore i am totally in love with ZFS filesystem... has all the nice features , deduplication , dubblets(ditto bloks), unlimited snapshot, cloning, writable clones., raidz (many versions)

you can get it in most linux os today.. but i use eigther https://www.illumos.org/ or the free nexenta version with has a nice web interface... supports SMB V2 , NFS , ISCSI etc https://community.nexenta.com/s/
if you want to know abount ZFS here is 2 youtube videos from the creators of ZFS
part one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoUC9P1PmA
part two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwCXVp_u86o

@scottalanmiller i havent done anything but working with thin client for the last 20 years.. been distribution (dosent anymore) both Fujitsu, Neoware VXL etc but make my own now.. the video was an example.. as the stream is AVC444 (H.264) it is decoded by graphics chip and could have been a single core 4GB/16GB machine... it is the software which make hw a thin client, but i give you another example with citrix on a 2GB ram/8GB gb flash is here.. a stationary thin client (nexstation IX also a 300 usd device)(ps we dont sell that anymore) is this small enough for you to be a thin client? it is not the hardware itself that make something a thin client, but it is the embedded software, if the definition of a thin client is slow hw, then ofcourse they are less usable.. but a thin client is fanless ,low power , purpose build os, and the management that belongs to it.. unicons-software(software guys who make thin client software) minimum requrements are today ,
Processor: x86, 2 GHz (4 CPUs) or more, 64-bit-capable
RAM: 4 GB or more
HDD: 16 GB or more
GPU (Graphics processing unit): AMD or Intel chipset
Network: 1 x Ethernet or 1 x WLAN
I/O ports: USB 3.0 or USB 2.0, USB boot support so even the laptop is within those specs

anyway 3D HDX on a 2/8GB J1900 machine , software rendered.. ( again video in the buttom of article).. https://nexterminal.dk/2020/03/18/3d-hdx-paa-tynde-klienter-kan-man-det/

i agree that 1GB ram and 1GB flash is more like a thin client, but thin clients like that i stopped selling back in 2013... and if you look at HP , fujitsu all their clients have high specs as mine.. the reason is all the requirement that is to be expected from thin clients today like browser redirection which uses webkit, support for RTC (telephony direct from client), these technologies require both cpu and ram.. the advantage of a thin client is it reduced functionality and the excessive lockdown and the management. it is afterall nice to know exactly what is installed in 4000 retail stores on each device, and beeing sure there is only the software on them which is planned.. ex a citrix workspace client and nothing else... and that has nothing to do with hardware... but os and functionality..

i think you even said that you self once https://mangolassi.it/topic/12525/thin-clients-and-fat-clients (just found it a sec ago)

@scottalanmiller i basicall disagree with most of the people in here about "thin client" are out of date.. it is all "old problem" belonging from back in 2008-2011 when video & flash and movin content became mainstream.. and the protocols wasent "tuned" for that kind of media... i am going to link to a video with RDP at 2560*1440 resolution running on a "thin client" laptop... it is made from my home (over wireless) to a server located at my company (well server, at is a hyper-v, running a win10 , and that is also connected wireless)... the max bandwith used i 6Mbit.. the are 2 3D application running "solid works" and "google earth" + netflix +media player and tv broadcast session... have a look.... thin client with proper management work well ( and it is a 300€ laptop) just watch the video at the bottom of the article https://nexterminal.dk/2020/03/27/video-killed-the-radio-star/ ps: it is a linux based thin client