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    • RE: Reverse Proxy?

      @coliver said in Reverse Proxy?:

      You're using IP authentication? That's odd.

      @JaredBusch has an nginx proxy guide on here somewhere.

      We have a few different things going on here.

      1. You go to our site, aernt IP recognised as you are not subscribed to that, and get the default login page. UN/PW using an SQL backend.
      2. You go to our site, are IP recognised as your public IP is on the list, and get access to 90% of the site without having to type your UN/PW. (For Universities etc this is helpful as any students on their LAN can just go to our site, and use it without needing a UN/PW).

      For the case of 2, a lot of places expect it to work when at Starbucks etc... and it wont as they are coming from a different public IP.

      By setting this proxy.reverse proxy thing up, students can point to our proxy, which is set as the 2nd type of access, from anywhere...

      See what i'm trying to do here?

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Reverse Proxy?

      Perhaps this is just standard proxy?
      Client sends rquest for xyz... that goes to my proxy at A, which sends their traffic to XYX. From XYZ, it appears to have came from A. Not the original client.

      Thats what i am trying to do.

      Would be great to have the proxy work by a username and password.

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    • Reverse Proxy?

      Hi folks,

      With our service, we take the IP address of customers and store in a database. Upon accessing the service, if their traffic is from a documented IP, they get a special login. That works well.

      The problem... users. They dont understand that when they go to say a coffee shop, or wherever with a laptop, the IP recognition will not work as their gateway IP is different. They are not technical, and are not interested in why it doesnt work - only that 'it doesnt work'.

      We would like to setup some sort of reverse proxy to sort this out where they can set their laptops etc to point to our proxy, which is added to our database as an IP, so that they always get the special page. No matter where they login from, they would go through us and get where they need...

      What can I use for that? It will need to point their traffic to a different public IP/site, not an internal IP.
      Not sure exactly here, so any ideas or thoughts welcome...

      Any ideas,
      Jim

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

      Watching 'Docker Containers Big Picture' on Pluralsight.

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    • RE: Food for Thought: Backups - from terrible to functional

      I run my servers locally in Camden. Space is not an issue for us, and we have dual lines/cooling anyway, so have not moved to a colocation. We run the free veeam agent on all the VMs to an on site Synology NAS - 60TB WDRed Pro drives.
      I then have a second Synology NAS sitting in a colo in Enfield, and replicate the backups nightly to that.

      Works nicely. Veeam agent emails me the results of each backup nightly. So all I have to do is just delete the emails, and troublehoot any failed ones. Smooth and other than the hardware, pretty cheap.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Food for Thought: Backups - from terrible to functional

      Having to drive somewhere to swap the drive each week sounds like such a PITA. Bet you cant wait to get that sorted.

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    • RE: One Drive for Business - desktop sync with shared folders

      @mike-davis said in One Drive for Business - desktop sync with shared folders:

      Just look at the thought process to do what you want to do:

      Hmmm I want to create a OneDrive folder for everyone. Step 1 open up SharePoint. ??

      For me, step 1... bin Sharepoint. But yes, if you want to do it how you want, then your step 1 works...

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: One Drive for Business - desktop sync with shared folders

      I hated OneDrive and moved away from it. I seem to remember using Sharepoint online, creating a folder with permissions to the respective group, then using the 'folder link' adding that to the business one drive app to sync... then that added the favorite. Though, I did move off of it.

      posted in IT Discussion
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      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      10K is a lot more than 5K. Maybe 8K is a better number?

      I think asking to meet in the middle is sensible, but i'm not sure the middle is worth all the extra work. Its a huge amount of work, on top of what I already do, saving the company loads...

      That's the hard part. You really just have to think about what the value of hte work, experience, and money are to you.

      Well, more than 5k for sure 😕
      Lets see what happens.

      I may take it for the experience and jump ship in a year.

      posted in Water Closet
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      Im thinking of suggesting 8k, but adding 5k on top with some sort of KPI based bonus system.

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      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      10K is a lot more than 5K. Maybe 8K is a better number?

      I think asking to meet in the middle is sensible, but i'm not sure the middle is worth all the extra work. Its a huge amount of work, on top of what I already do, saving the company loads...

      posted in Water Closet
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      @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @jimmy9008 That doesn't make any sense. if they can pay an entire salary to someone you can get more than 5k

      I expect they are just trying to pay as low as they can and save on not hiring. Its just extremely skewed towards being good for the company, but bad for me. It looks like most say its fair to push back on this. 10k was where I think 'fair' is...

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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

      I didn't do the conversion.. looks like at £10K, he'd nearly get your $15K...

      Good point. £10k would be a good starting point, but I would still suggest conversations about where you'd like to be in a year or two.

      For only 5k, if no budge, is it even worth having that convo? Im still 50/50 on to accept or not if they dont budge...

      If you say no, are they likely going to hire an outside person?

      This is a great question. and if they hire an outside person, will you be replaced? Sounds like that want a single person in that three job role.

      No, they would be hiring for somebody to just take on the two departments leaving me where I am.

      Really? You know this?

      Yes. 100%.

      Well, sounds like they have £55K to play with toward your salary then (not to mention the cost of the benefits for a whole other person.

      That is where I am with this too. I just wanted to know if pushing back on 5k to 10k is fair, which I think it is. If they say no, that's up to them buy it costs far more and is not a sensible decision.

      posted in Water Closet
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      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      What city are you in now?

      London, Camden Town.

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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

      I didn't do the conversion.. looks like at £10K, he'd nearly get your $15K...

      Good point. £10k would be a good starting point, but I would still suggest conversations about where you'd like to be in a year or two.

      For only 5k, if no budge, is it even worth having that convo? Im still 50/50 on to accept or not if they dont budge...

      If you say no, are they likely going to hire an outside person?

      This is a great question. and if they hire an outside person, will you be replaced? Sounds like that want a single person in that three job role.

      No, they would be hiring for somebody to just take on the two departments leaving me where I am.

      Really? You know this?

      Yes. 100%.

      posted in Water Closet
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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

      I didn't do the conversion.. looks like at £10K, he'd nearly get your $15K...

      Good point. £10k would be a good starting point, but I would still suggest conversations about where you'd like to be in a year or two.

      For only 5k, if no budge, is it even worth having that convo? Im still 50/50 on to accept or not if they dont budge...

      If you say no, are they likely going to hire an outside person?

      This is a great question. and if they hire an outside person, will you be replaced? Sounds like that want a single person in that three job role.

      No, they would be hiring for somebody to just take on the two departments leaving me where I am.

      posted in Water Closet
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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

      I didn't do the conversion.. looks like at £10K, he'd nearly get your $15K...

      Good point. £10k would be a good starting point, but I would still suggest conversations about where you'd like to be in a year or two.

      For only 5k, if no budge, is it even worth having that convo? Im still 50/50 on to accept or not if they dont budge...

      If you say no, are they likely going to hire an outside person?

      Yes, they will have to. That is why i'm not sure why they are going so low. Even at 10k they are still saving a ton.

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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

      I didn't do the conversion.. looks like at £10K, he'd nearly get your $15K...

      Good point. £10k would be a good starting point, but I would still suggest conversations about where you'd like to be in a year or two.

      For only 5k, if no budge, is it even worth having that convo? Im still 50/50 on to accept or not if they dont budge...

      posted in Water Closet
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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      I know here that wont be possible. Ideally, yes - I agree. But I have to be realistic. I think pushing them to 10k would be possible. Maybe add in some sort of bonus based on KPIs too, but a 15k jump just wont happen.

      5k would be hard to say yes to, but if for taking the experience then moving in a year - that is something I may be able to accept...

      £15K bump with on experience (or do you have some?) would likely be unreasonable. But an up front conversation about where you expect to be in 1-2 years based upon that experience then might be valid.

      I have experience of being a manager from a previous job of two people. Like I said, I dont think the work/role will be an issue at all... its the only '5k' that I dont like. If they value it so low, why should I...

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      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

      That sounds incredibly low

      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

      That's decent for an SA in the UK. That's not US dollars.

      65k in pounds right? Still on the low end here, but I guess it also depends on where in the US you are working

      That's $88K at the current conversion, but that's not a fair comparison. Think of it more like $110K USD. All British wages are heavily suppressed because of the Brexit.

      45000 GBP is 60827 USD.

      This position would also still keep me doing my current system admin job. Its not a move to the helpdesk and training manager only. Its a 'heldesk + training manager + system administrator (which I currently do)'... why would that be bad?
      I think I would enjoy the additional roles, but not worth doing for 5k.

      In that case - OH HELL NO, I wouldn't take that new responsibility for only £5K more.

      Exactly 😉 I think 10k makes it worth doing. But 5k isnt worth the extra stress. I see 5k as a really nice payrise, not a pay adjustment for taking on a lot of duties and oownership of two departments. Even 10k is low, but I thought realistic. Was suprised they said 5k.

      I wouldn't take on the extra responsibilities of managing not one, but two different sets of people for less than 15k.

      15K USD that is. Remember, he's in the UK. He's talking £.

      10k GBP = 13.5 USD. I expect that if I say no, they will up it. But trying to get a feel for what is reasonable.

      Everything I seem to find says most managers in London are around 55k anyway. So its under for a hell of a lot of work.

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