@Dominica said:

@g.jacobse said:

Think of Christopher Columbus and discovery of the New World.. Where would we Americans be had he not ventured into the unknown and the dangerous waters of monsters and myth.

You did NOT just go there with Christopher Columbus. SMH, didn't you read the Christopher Columbus thread from the other day? Check out the real story.

Read - I find it interesting.. It of course was not taught that way 30 years ago when I went through school..

I do realize that many of the 'good intended explorers' really did nothing but plunder, pillage and other foul and unpleasant things,... all in the name of Progress

One wonders if we will again turn a blind eye ( or just poke the eye out completely) when we meet those beyond the stars...

Fear and greed -

@Dominica said:

@g.jacobse said:

Think of Christopher Columbus and discovery of the New World.. Where would we Americans be had he not ventured into the unknown and the dangerous waters of monsters and myth.

You did NOT just go there with Christopher Columbus. SMH, didn't you read the Christopher Columbus thread from the other day? Check out the real story.

Sorry @Dominica , I guess I missed it working.. or at least pretending to work. Let me go find it and see what the hubbub is about. (Okay.. I admit it,.. I was watching The Walking Dead, and LOST on NetFlix..)

@Dominica said:

It also does not recognize when I've already visited a thread.

What about a USB bootable OS?

@scottalanmiller said:

Yeah, it was absolutely crazy and terrifying.

Which is why (at least I think) the phrase "Flying by the seat of your pants" was coined....

Long / Deep space exploration is impractical because of the amount of fuel, water and Oxygen that would need to be bottled and hauled with. You'd have to build a Bio-sphere type system.. a 'Mini Earth'

But I'm no rocket scientist..

@scottalanmiller said:

@g.jacobse It's a router. It would replace your existing router.

<FACEPALM>

Yes,..yes it is.. therefore,.. so it does.. (Homer Simpson moment)

I'm curious to have one... maybe. But, I have to wonder, where would it fit in my network.

<cable modem> -- <router>--Switch --<PC>
--<Ubqiuti WiFI>

I already have questions.....

@ajstringham said:

@g.jacobse said:

@ajstringham said:

@g.jacobse said:

@ajstringham
In some regard Earth has become uninhabitable...

The moon is uninhabitable, space is uninhabitable.. and yet - there we are.. There are resources that are there that we would be able to harvest for the next step.

Mount Everest is uninhabitable, and yet thousands of people clammer up it's slopes - risking death or serious injury for the glory, the adventure, and the curiosity..

True. But consider this: satellites orbit earth from space, and the moon is only something like 3 days away. Mars is supposed to be something like 8 months away. I get that going to Mars would be amazing, but the expression "long ways from home" doesn't even begin to cover it. If something goes wrong, well, you're on your own.

And climbing Everest is cool but foolish IMHO.

It is very much an 'argument' that could go both ways... Climbing Everest or exploring space (inner or outer) - It's cool, It's neat, It's exciting, It's dangerous, it's pointless, its,..

If we do not venture into space, we are limiting our species to a slow painful death because we would stagnate. The human mind is mapped for exploration, excitement, and finding new things. Our minds would shut down if we didn't go.

Not to mention - We are just but a small speck in the Galactic Ocean of Space - If would be such a waste to NOT go. Think of Christopher Columbus and discovery of the New World.. Where would we Americans be had he not ventured into the unknown and the dangerous waters of monsters and myth.

Ummm...Christopher Columbus didn't discover the New World. In all technicality, the Vikings did. But in any case...

Earth alone won't stagnate the growth of the human race. They are looking to explore deep space but there is still a huge portion of the earth that is completely foreign to mankind. They haven't completed one task before moving on to another.

Yes yes - quite true. In that regard - splitting hairs

@scottalanmiller said:

@coliver said:

I was about to say the same thing. You just need to look at the technologies introduced by NASA around that time and decades later to know it was worth it.

Actually found a list by NASA (http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html).

NASA didn't need to go to the moon to develop good tech. They could have developed all of the same, at lower cost, without going.

And more important is the cost of lost opportunity - what did we not develop because we were focused on those things instead?

Could NASA have developed those items and a lower cost? Sure,..It wasn't and still isn't going to happen the minute you say Living Cargo. The moment you state that you going to launch a human your risks and your cost jump exponentially ,....

@ajstringham said:

@g.jacobse said:

@ajstringham
In some regard Earth has become uninhabitable...

The moon is uninhabitable, space is uninhabitable.. and yet - there we are.. There are resources that are there that we would be able to harvest for the next step.

Mount Everest is uninhabitable, and yet thousands of people clammer up it's slopes - risking death or serious injury for the glory, the adventure, and the curiosity..

True. But consider this: satellites orbit earth from space, and the moon is only something like 3 days away. Mars is supposed to be something like 8 months away. I get that going to Mars would be amazing, but the expression "long ways from home" doesn't even begin to cover it. If something goes wrong, well, you're on your own.

And climbing Everest is cool but foolish IMHO.

It is very much an 'argument' that could go both ways... Climbing Everest or exploring space (inner or outer) - It's cool, It's neat, It's exciting, It's dangerous, it's pointless, its,..

If we do not venture into space, we are limiting our species to a slow painful death because we would stagnate. The human mind is mapped for exploration, excitement, and finding new things. Our minds would shut down if we didn't go.

Not to mention - We are just but a small speck in the Galactic Ocean of Space - If would be such a waste to NOT go. Think of Christopher Columbus and discovery of the New World.. Where would we Americans be had he not ventured into the unknown and the dangerous waters of monsters and myth.

@scottalanmiller They are looking at Asteroid mining currently - listening to NPR this week reported pending landing of such.

Okay, can't seem to find it,.. IIRC - it should land within the next few months.

@ajstringham
In some regard Earth has become uninhabitable...

The moon is uninhabitable, space is uninhabitable.. and yet - there we are.. There are resources that are there that we would be able to harvest for the next step.

Mount Everest is uninhabitable, and yet thousands of people clammer up it's slopes - risking death or serious injury for the glory, the adventure, and the curiosity..

How bad is it .... really?

Your current status: Clean Room Diagnosis 10/3/2014 16:43*

The Initial Evaluation results indicate that, due to the complexity of your data loss, your hard drive requires the attention of a Clean Room Engineer. Our Clean Room Engineers will apply advanced technologies to attempt to make your hard drive readable.

It' been in the clean room since the 3rd,.. Seven business days.. Makes me a bit concerned ,.....

@scottalanmiller said:

I expect them to do cross platform, huge waste of opportunity if they don't. The TC primary value proposition was that you could run one product everywhere. Each platform has encryption already that is very good but not cross platform.

Which is why I liked TC - (and unrelated KeePass) since they were cross, and available on many distros USB bootable.

I've not had issues with any of mine, I wonder if the OP is able to access his account today.

Nice - One of the best things about OpenSource. I have some minor concerns with Opensource... but when I step back a half second,.. I have issues with all software. What is and what isn't safe, what vulnerabilities are in it. Just look at Windows....

Hope it will be cross platform, I used TC in both MS and Linux environments, and it is nice to have the same file accessible in both.

@thecreativeone91 said:

Well there is a bad storm coming through.. calling for some bad tornados tonight so it might be the backend connection from ISP to the CDN is down or something.

They came across here earlier today (Central Kentucky) - stay safe.

@thecreativeone91
Different. Just logged out of one, cleared the cache and logged back in with no issues. Could be difference in servers though..

@thecreativeone91 said:

Anyone else gmail down?

I'm currently in 4 of my accounts and gVoice.

@scottalanmiller said:

@g.jacobse said:

Been cleared to order it,... so mute point.

Or moot, as the case may be.

Yea,.. that