Nasty. I'm not eating bugs or spiders. In Africa, I ate zero bugs (on purpose). I know there were things in the bread and in the rice and in any pasta I had, but that is where I drew the line. grubs, termites caterpillars... NOPE.

They made a book out of that?!?

I've seen times when this is pretty handy. For example: you have a local physical Unitrends appliance for backups, but no colo and can't stomach the Unitrends Vault 2 Cloud costs, but you can get storage on a virtual platform from another vendor, and maybe you already have something hosted there. You spin up the UEB, but you don't have full access to that network. You can use your other VM as a jump server in this way.

Also, I'm not 100% positive, but I'm pretty sure that a newly-deployed UEB will be on CentOS6.

I still wouldn't post about it in a public forum. That is, unless I knew every post was getting me one step closer to the "points" crown

@Carnival-Boy said:
Would you say the President of the USA is an amateur...?

YUP!

Yup, Unitrends has been heavily focused in the physical appliance, with integrated software and storage, while they offer software-only options. They also, AFAIK, hold the record on supported OS's. Veeam is software protection of virtual, primarily.

And to be sure, everything I contribute is pure genius, whether any of you dolts get it or not.

@gjacobse said:

That sounds like a awesome place to work. I'd consider it if I was:

• Living in that area
• looking which I am not.
• able to work in the shop
  Wanting learn some metal skills.,...

Come hang out at my place if you want to be taught some "metal skills"! \m/

It can get a little confusing, the way storage limits are referred to. If you have a "licensed" storage amount, that is calling out how much data you can protect. Your actual storage is the landing zone for backups. With a UEB, the attached storage is a landing zone, not pointing to how much data can be protected. With 1 TB, you can get as many fulls, diffs, incs, etc. that will fit in that space. You can also count on some data reduction in your favor (deduplication/compression). On the "licensed" storage amount, I believe the calculation is made for the protected data size based on a 30-day retention with Incremental Forever as the primary strategy.

Seriously? You can win a family pass to see the Wiggles?!? Wow!

I think there is an issue here in understanding where the "required home lab" actually fits. Let's say I am looking for a guy who can put wingnuts on bolts, and 2 guys apply for the position. Candidate #1 has been employed putting wingnuts on bolts for a handful of years, and his references look good. Candidate #2 has also got employment experience, and is obsessed with wingnuts and spends his weekends competing in wingnut fastening speed competitions (don't get lost in the analogy...). There is nothing anywhere that says that the job requires a candidate who is thoroughly obsessed with wingnuts, but which candidate is going to be better-suited to do the job? You can bring psychology into the discussion, but if all I care about is how many wingnuts are on bolts at the end of the day, you'd be hard-pressed to make a case for hiring candidate #1 when his competition for the position is candidate #2. Insert "home lab" in place of speed competitions, and look at how obvious it is. The applicant who is all about technology has a competitive edge over the applicant who is only interested in doing 9-5 and getting a paycheck. It doesn't make that attitude wrong, and it has nothing to do with fair or unfair. Each person does what they choose to do. They must live with the consequences of those choices. If the better applicant gets hired, and you don't like it, figure out how to be more competitive so you can be the better applicant next time.

I think it's going to get better as time goes on, too. At first, it wasn't very impressive. Too many "opinions" and not enough solid data. Things are improving and the training is therefore getting more useful.

So you want to put album sales and concert ticket sales head to head between Coldplay and Journey? Good luck with that one. I think maybe you're too young to remember what music used to be like and the cultural impact it had. Sorry, but those days are long gone. Welcome to the digital age. No one is wearing Coldplay concert tee's.

@david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
A job shouldn't ever be based on what someone choses to do with their time outside of the office.

You've obviously never applied for a high-level position. Your life goes under the magnifying glass, including social media posts, etc. That's absolutely how it's done.

@IRJ said:

So it will NOT work on physical servers?

Right. Virtual only.

@scottalanmiller that's the lamest model railroad layout I've ever seen.

It's kinda simple. You're building a team. Do you pick people looking for a paycheck, or people with a passion about what you're doing? If you have the option, you're looking for passion... or you shouldn't be the one doing the hiring.

Thanks for that info, Dennis. I'll admit I'm not very familiar with Veeam; I only have a basic understanding of how it works. Once again, I think the bottom line is that there's not a single best choice for backup solutions. Veeam seems to be a great choice in an all-virtual environment. Storage Craft has been great in an all-Windows environment (until last month when they released Linux protection). Unitrends is a great choice for a varied environment. Each has their strengths and each certainly has their weakness(es). Threads like this are great because everyone can defend their own best fit solution, and inform others in the process. We all come into contact with various, unique environments, so being well-rounded in your knowledge is a much better plan than simply being a fan-boy for a particular product.

Scott is just weird. That's all. Those are movies that "artsy" people care about (not sure about 6th Sense...) and have seen. I've seen zero of them, but I've seen a ton of movies that he hasn't, cause they're MAINSTREAM. Mainstream is listening to AC DC and Garth Brooks and eating at McDonald's. Watching some movie that was something special to some stuff-shirt in Australia and eating at gourmet Asian restaurants is not mainstream. You also can't get any more mainstream than Journey. While Coldplay may have had (or still have) big sales, from my own personal perspective, I just don't see them nearly as much of a mainstream band as some of the others listed, at least not where I am from. If you turn on a local station, you are going to hear more Journey than Coldplay, guaranteed.

@IRJ said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

@Minion-Queen said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

Well also the argument comes in that why should I pay someone to work on a client's environment if you don't at least have some idea. I can't charge a client for a staff member to learn. Where do you fit your learning time in, if when you are at work you are..working?

It should be built in to the pricing. If you are charging a client $300 an hour, it's not like you are paying your IT person $250 an hour so that is where the margin is built in. You are more than likely paying them $25-$100 an hour.

Training should be done on company time IMO. Our company spent an extra million dollars YTD on training this year, but on our bottom line we made an extra $60 million YTD. So you reap what you sow.

With on the clock training, and more encouragement towards certfications and such you get happier employees. I believe a company should pay for a calls or certification each year as long as the employee is interested. Higher skilled employees means better efficiency, and higher skilled employees lead to better clients and more money in the long run.

I wish we had those margins.