Intel NUC (skull Canyon) recommend for workstation with heavy processing power
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Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
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@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
This really depends on how the software works. If it's all desktop based stuff - then running in a VM would require VDI licensing assuming he's using Windows based workstations.
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@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
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@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
Sage systems are horrible. They have silly client side things a lot of times.
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@JaredBusch said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
Sage systems are horrible. They have silly client side things a lot of times.
totally agree with you there. Any recommendation?
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@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
LOL maybe that's why you have a job?
you replaced the guy who got fired over that? j/kOK MAS 50 - and in a multi-user environment it's setup with a server, as you mention you have.
This is very similar to what I have (I have Business Works Gold - the baby product to MAS 50) and it works the same way as yours does.
How many accounting people do you have who share this service/data?
You mention the desire for an i7 because you will be working DB stuff and want it fast.
question - is the DB stuff run on the server or locally on the workstation?I'm not sure how MAS/BWG works exactly - I suppose the server DB could send data to the client, and the client could do all crunching on the data to give the desired report, but that feels wrong.
I would suggest that you along with someone in accounting call your support personal for MAS and find out where the processing happens. If the processing all happens on the server side, then having a fast local machine is pointless with the stated goal.
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@JaredBusch said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
Sage systems are horrible. They have silly client side things a lot of times.
You mean like Exchange has Outlook?
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
Sage systems are horrible. They have silly client side things a lot of times.
You mean like Exchange has Outlook?
While that is bad, no. I mean that Sage has processes that DO crunch things locally. It is crazy.
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@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
LOL maybe that's why you have a job?
you replaced the guy who got fired over that? j/kOK MAS 50 - and in a multi-user environment it's setup with a server, as you mention you have.
This is very similar to what I have (I have Business Works Gold - the baby product to MAS 50) and it works the same way as yours does.
How many accounting people do you have who share this service/data?
You mention the desire for an i7 because you will be working DB stuff and want it fast.
question - is the DB stuff run on the server or locally on the workstation?I'm not sure how MAS/BWG works exactly - I suppose the server DB could send data to the client, and the client could do all crunching on the data to give the desired report, but that feels wrong.
I would suggest that you along with someone in accounting call your support personal for MAS and find out where the processing happens. If the processing all happens on the server side, then having a fast local machine is pointless with the stated goal.
As I mentioned before I do not know all about their software, or how they do their work. But from what I know is Sage is like a final step before sending the information to payroll. Before that they need to compile the data on their machine first, thus the need for processing power. I don't know what they use to compile the data.
@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
Well, we'd need to know more about what system you're using for accounting before we can really talk about it.
What caused the outage and missed payroll last time?
My accounting person has a PC, but I can move them to another computer where they will have access to all of their files and install a front-end for the accounting package, printers etc in under 1 hour.
Sadly we aren't looking to move to a fully web hosted/based solution so that all she needs is a web browser, but as I said, I can get her up and running on a completely different machine in 1 hour.
Why couldn't you (or whomever) do that for your accounting person/department?
Our accounting use SAGE 50 application. Sage 50 is configured to have service side, where all data are stored and clients side, where users would login into server data. The problem last time caused from something messed up the pathing to the server. I don't know much about it since it happened long before I joined the company.
@ardeyn said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run the accoutning applications (would need more details here) as a VM? Would give you a lot of room to maneuvre, while giving you a chance to get some redundancy, as well as let your accounting work from any workstation.
It was not outage. it was messed up in the configuration itself. I don't know what happened. There was no documentation about it. I know this because the accounting manager told me the story.
Sage systems are horrible. They have silly client side things a lot of times.
You mean like Exchange has Outlook?
At least Outlook works... Sage client is all about luck and its mood. It might works, and crash within seconds for no obvious reason.
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huh - I've known people on Sage without those problems. Are you on an old version or something?
I guess if your company doesn't care about spending correctly (and it sounds like they don't since the CEO told you to do this) then just buy what they want and walk away.
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@LAH3385 said:
As I mentioned before I do not know all about their software, or how they do their work. But from what I know is Sage is like a final step before sending the information to payroll. Before that they need to compile the data on their machine first, thus the need for processing power. I don't know what they use to compile the data.
Obviously you should speak directly with someone to learn what they actually do first. You cannot make informed decisions about how IT can help the company without knowledge of how the department works. Of course you do not need to know how to do there job, just be given a demo of all the steps involved.
Then once you know that you can reliably get something beneficial to the company and the department.
I can say from experience that most likely all of the accounting information is in some system other than Sage 50 and they are running a Visual Integrator (i think it is called) job to import the data.
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@Dashrender said:
huh - I've known people on Sage without those problems. Are you on an old version or something?
I guess if your company doesn't care about spending correctly (and it sounds like they don't since the CEO told you to do this) then just buy what they want and walk away.
I have a client using Sage 100 (current system) and has these problems because of VI jobs.
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@JaredBusch said:
Visual Integrator (i think it is called) job to import the data.
What is Visual Integrator?
does that mean reading one set of data and keying it into another system? LOL -
@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
Visual Integrator (i think it is called) job to import the data.
What is Visual Integrator?
does that mean reading one set of data and keying it into another system? LOL
