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      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      If you are doing a non-templated install, then you need the XenTools installed separately.

      Right that's what I was asking. If I use other media, and then install xentools from the iso, is it PV then or still HVM?

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        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous said:

        Trying again with the correct template.

        I wouldn't say "correct", but let's say "standard." It's the most common approach to handling those workloads. Nothing wrong with going non-PV or non-template, but it means more work on your end, like getting the XenTools installed and dealing with driver selection.

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          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          If you are doing a non-templated install, then you need the XenTools installed separately.

          Right that's what I was asking. If I use other media, and then install xentools from the iso, is it PV then or still HVM?

          Didn't I just answer that 😉

          Drivers can never make something PV. PV vs. non-PV are different target archtictures, not a different selection of drivers. Installing the XenTools is required for HVM only. If you have a PV install, you don't need special drivers at all.

          The entire point of XenTools or any PV Drivers like that on any platform is an attempt to mimic true PV. But if you install as PV, there is no purpose to pretending to be something you already are.

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            Alex Sage
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            And now my ISO will not boot..... WTF? 😞

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              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous said:

              And now my ISO will not boot..... WTF? 😞

              Any error or just a blinking cursor?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                If you are doing a non-templated install, then you need the XenTools installed separately.

                Right that's what I was asking. If I use other media, and then install xentools from the iso, is it PV then or still HVM?

                Didn't I just answer that 😉

                Drivers can never make something PV. PV vs. non-PV are different target archtictures, not a different selection of drivers. Installing the XenTools is required for HVM only. If you have a PV install, you don't need special drivers at all.

                The entire point of XenTools or any PV Drivers like that on any platform is an attempt to mimic true PV. But if you install as PV, there is no purpose to pretending to be something you already are.

                That kind of sucks because I think the minimum for a CentOS 7 template is like 2 GiB RAM.

                Ah I take that back, you can change it through the cli just not through the GUI. Never mind.

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                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  That kind of sucks because I think the minimum for a CentOS 7 template is like 2 GiB RAM.

                  Ah I take that back, you can change it through the cli just not through the GUI. Never mind.

                  That was the complaint in the other thread, or one of them, that going to a reasonable amount of memory on XS often requires eschewing the templates and/or going to CLI to resize. Pretty silly. 2GB is way to big as a minimum.

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                    Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Any error or just a blinking cursor?

                    a blinking cursor

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      That's with the RHEL 7 template?

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        That kind of sucks because I think the minimum for a CentOS 7 template is like 2 GiB RAM.

                        Ah I take that back, you can change it through the cli just not through the GUI. Never mind.

                        That was the complaint in the other thread, or one of them, that going to a reasonable amount of memory on XS often requires eschewing the templates and/or going to CLI to resize. Pretty silly. 2GB is way to big as a minimum.

                        Ya which is why I said about using other media. I didn't realize then that you lost PV with that. I might have to change my template I built. I'm pretty sure I used other media.

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller No, CentOS7 one, I'll try that one.

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                            stacksofplates
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                            I did it on other media just to test, it's installing packages now.

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                              Alex Sage
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                              0_1455591291971_2016-02-15 21_54_23-XenCenter.png

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                                Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks any luck?

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                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  I did it on other media just to test, it's installing packages now.

                                  What about testing with the templates too, he's having issues with both.

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                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    I did it on other media just to test, it's installing packages now.

                                    What about testing with the templates too, he's having issues with both.

                                    I let it install last night. I don't have any issues at all. I had a Gnome 3 desktop and was able to run applications fine. I'll try a template when I get home.

                                    I'm using XO not XenCenter, so I don't know whether that has any weight on the VNC session or not.

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                                      Alex Sage
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                                      https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/364226-centos-7-1503-installer-gives-blank-screen/

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                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Do you have the latest service pack installed?

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                                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller all up to date. Just tested still not working.

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                                            stacksofplates
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                                            I've had issues with XenCenter and CentOS 7 in the past where the installer said it couldn't find a VNC session and was exiting and just hung there. Not had these problems with XO.

                                            One person said if they exit XenCenter and come back Anaconda was running

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