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    Is Windows 10 Fall Update a new version?

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    • J
      Jason Banned
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      It's an upgrade not an update though. Windows 10 is planned for "rolling" upgrades from the get go.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          I was really hoping that @scottalanmiller would chime in here.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned
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            You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

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              Jason Banned @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

              Not really you can block them with WSUS just like any other.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                @art_of_shred said:

                You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @art_of_shred said:

                  You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                  Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

                  I wanted to know if you consider this a new version like 8.1 was to 8?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

                    Not really you can block them with WSUS just like any other.

                    Sure you can block them, but then you aren't getting updates any longer unless you're on the LTSB, which most SMBs won't be.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @art_of_shred said:

                      You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                      Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

                      I wanted to know if you consider this a new version like 8.1 was to 8?

                      Windows NT 6.2 to Windows NT 6.3 was a major kernel update with a fundamental change to the core. I'm not aware of any Windows NT 6.5 kernel having been released. If it was, I completely missed it.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        Looks like they changed the kernel numbering to v 10.0

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

                        So this is a minor change, not a 10.0 to 10.1, just 10.0.x to 10.0.y... ok

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          A patch level would be expected. CentOS 7 will increment patch number, but not change the minor number.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Looks like they changed the kernel numbering to v 10.0

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

                            So this is a minor change, not a 10.0 to 10.1, just 10.0.x to 10.0.y... ok

                            Yeah, just a rename like Linux 3. They renamed to line up with other things and did not have an actual major version change in either case.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              OK.. but Win 10 did start out as kernel 6.4... so 6.4 = 10.0 now.. just to make things easier to follow.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                OK.. but Win 10 did start out as kernel 6.4... so 6.4 = 10.0 now.. just to make things easier to follow.

                                Yes, 10 is the new name for 6.4. So the question is whether 10.1 would be 6.5, or would 11 be 6.5?

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                                • art_of_shredA
                                  art_of_shred Banned
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                                  11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                                    @art_of_shred said:

                                    11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

                                    We are talking the kernel, not the OS brand name.

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @art_of_shred said:

                                      11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

                                      We are talking the kernel, not the OS brand name.

                                      So now 10 and 11 are kernel names? That's what I was joking about.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes, 10 is the new kernel name. And the real question is given that 6.5 maps to 10.0, what would what should be 6.6 map to and depending on that answer, what would NT 7 map to then?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @art_of_shred
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                                          @art_of_shred said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @art_of_shred said:

                                          11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

                                          We are talking the kernel, not the OS brand name.

                                          So now 10 and 11 are kernel names? That's what I was joking about.

                                          it may seem like jokes, but if you think about it.. it's easier for most folks to have the kernel match the OS number.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Yes, 10 is the new kernel name. And the real question is given that 6.5 maps to 10.0, what would what should be 6.6 map to and depending on that answer, what would NT 7 map to then?

                                            I'm pretty sure its 6.4 maps to kernel 10.

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