Solved difference between IP PBX and IP Centrex
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In much of the world, especially the developed world, the idea of "local numbers" is rapidly fading. Even in the US where those feelings were strong people struggle to even know what people mean by local numbers anymore. And the US did not have the kinds of problems that Qatar has.
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yeah i see what you mean, we are the ones who created this limitation for ourselves, and the winner is the ISP
actually it is very hard to change this idea from the peoples mind -
@IT-ADMIN said:
yeah i see what you mean, we are the ones who created this limitation for ourselves, and the winner is the ISP
actually it is very hard to change this idea from the peoples mindCorrect, the people and the businesses have allowed their "rights", in a way, to be eroded away by being lazy. Or by having bizarre prejudice based on a phone number. People everywhere are very easily manipulated in these ways, it is not unique to being there, but it does show just how incredibly easily it can happen and how impactful something that seems really small can be.
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It's not as simple as all that though.
Let's say that his office decided to change to another countries phone number, That more than likely means that all of their customers will have to make long distance calls to call them. Unless their wireless carriers are like US ones where calling between states is no longer considered long distance (yet most home service still considers it long distance) most people would be charged for calling them. This can be a huge blow to business.
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@Dashrender said:
It's not as simple as all that though.
Let's say that his office decided to change to another countries phone number, That more than likely means that all of their customers will have to make long distance calls to call them. Unless their wireless carriers are like US ones where calling between states is no longer considered long distance (yet most home service still considers it long distance) most people would be charged for calling them. This can be a huge blow to business.
That's a risk, of course, but only if they go to another country's phone numbers. There are two good choices here:
- Everyone agree to use a country that is large, near and practical. That might be India, Egypt or Turkey. I'm not sure which country has the scale, infrastructure and good laws to make this make the most sense. Then just use those numbers and everything works just fine.
- Drop the PSTN completely and leapfrog the rest of the world. Go to Skype and leave the rest of us in the technology dust.
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@scottalanmiller said:
- Drop the PSTN completely and leapfrog the rest of the world. Go to Skype and leave the rest of us in the technology dust.
how would that work? Skype? really?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
- Drop the PSTN completely and leapfrog the rest of the world. Go to Skype and leave the rest of us in the technology dust.
how would that work? Skype? really?
What do you mean how? The same way traditional phone numbers do, instead of giving out a string of hard to remember numbers you give out an easy to remember username.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
- Drop the PSTN completely and leapfrog the rest of the world. Go to Skype and leave the rest of us in the technology dust.
how would that work? Skype? really?
Already huge portions of the world (not countries but businesses) that have done this. The PSTN is already bypassed in many places. Skype is a pretty ideal way to handle this, actually.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
- Drop the PSTN completely and leapfrog the rest of the world. Go to Skype and leave the rest of us in the technology dust.
how would that work? Skype? really?
What do you mean how? The same way traditional phone numbers do, instead of giving out a string of hard to remember numbers you give out an easy to remember username.
Other than it being a proprietary Microsoft product with an annoying interface, Skype is actually really, really good for this.
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And you can do direct SIP too. The VoIP world does not require the PSTN to operate.
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LOL I completely understand how skype works, but setting up your business to be solely on Skype seems, well, odd. I'm sorry customer, I don't have a phone number, I have a Skype account.
Does Skype support call centers? You can dial into a call center through Skype?
Then there's that fact that the NSA has direct taps into Skype and is listening to everything that flows through it... not a fan of that in the least.
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@Dashrender said:
Then there's that fact that the NSA has direct taps into Skype and is listening to everything that flows through it... not a fan of that in the least.
And they don't into the PSTN?
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@Dashrender said:
Does Skype support call centers? You can dial into a call center through Skype?
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@Dashrender said:
I'm sorry customer, I don't have a phone number, I have a Skype account.
I've been seeing companies doing this for years. Less common in the US where the phone system is more or less open and business ready. In a country where there isn't a free and business quality phone network it would make so much more sense. And it isn't "we don't have a phone number" it is "we have a modern phone, call us there."
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@scottalanmiller said:
And it isn't "we don't have a phone number" it is "we have a modern phone, call us there."
LOL, this makes me laugh. So business cards in those areas just say SKYPE:username?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And it isn't "we don't have a phone number" it is "we have a modern phone, call us there."
LOL, this makes me laugh. So business cards in those areas just say SKYPE:username?
Of course, just like many US businesses have been for years. Typically smaller ones, but we are talking about a tiny country without a viable business class phone system already.
The alternative is calling each other in another country's codes. Does that seem better?
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Think about how we have transitions to Skype, IM, Email, Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook links on business cards for years. More and more often phone numbers are not included. And that's the US.
Having Skype on a business card is not weird at all. I've worked with IT vendors for a long time that don't use phone numbers.
Try to take yourself out of the US mindset and thing about a tiny country where phone numbers are fully monitored and controlled by the government and no modern phones are possible without moving to something like Skype. Don't seem silly or odd in the least, to me.
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Not sure if Microsoft intends to pursue more enterprise features as they begin to integrate Skype and Skype for Business. But SfB is already being pushed to be their enterprise PBX product so they are going to need to go down this path.
