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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      The price of the bay isn't that expensive either. . .

      (no I'm not going to be purchasing this for work)

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Buffalo makes some
        Netgear makes some

        etc.

        Two disk? why not just stick the drives inside the machine? Use Windows or Linux to software RAID them, assuming money is the concern.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          We are currently using laCie and have had a rather high failure rate as of recently with 2 different units. So are there any units that fit in the Enterprise environment?

          No, it's neither an enterprise vendor nor an enterprise product category (USB external drives.) But to be fair, you are not in any way an enterprise so that's not a show stopper.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            House built IMO doesn't generally fill the description either. Which is why I left it out of the question.

            That's not correct at all. By that definition "servers" aren't enterprise and, of course, they are.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said:

              if you had absolutely no other choice and had to buy a 2 bay enclosure for External USB storage, what would you go with?

              Depends on the need, of course, but by definition that's not an enterprise need, so looking for an enterprise solution isn't going to work out well. You can definitely get better than Lacie with vendors that people have mentioned.

              But almost certainly there is a better answer here. Obviously if you have no choice, whatever. But if you can evaluate the goal rather than starting from a solution, I bet there is a better approach to be found. At least in most cases.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                Buffalo makes some
                Netgear makes some

                Are you sure? They make NAS and SAN units, do they make USB class DAS units? I'm pretty sure Netgear, at least, does not.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Buffalo makes some
                  Netgear makes some

                  Are you sure? They make NAS and SAN units, do they make USB class DAS units? I'm pretty sure Netgear, at least, does not.

                  yeah I was thinking NAS, why would you want DAS like this? anyway... you're probably right.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    yeah I was thinking NAS, why would you want DAS like this? anyway... you're probably right.

                    They are treating it like it is any external hard drive. It's a bad situation, but it is what it is.

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned
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                      Use Caldigit.

                      Lucie used to make good units, but they've cut the quality hugely.

                      http://www.caldigit.com/VR2/

                      Seen these in use at many a place and got 2 of the mini ones myself.

                      Very reliable, maintain their performance for years.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        I guess a better question would be.

                        if you had absolutely no other choice and had to buy a 2 bay enclosure for External USB storage, what would you go with?

                        I guess my question should have been, does it have to be USB?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender

                          Yes (at least with what we have currently) Which that is planning on being changed to newer hardware.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            I guess a better question would be.

                            if you had absolutely no other choice and had to buy a 2 bay enclosure for External USB storage, what would you go with?

                            I guess my question should have been, does it have to be USB?

                            That's what I was asking about about stepping back and looking at the bigger solution set.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              @Dashrender

                              Yes (at least with what we have currently) Which that is planning on being changed to newer hardware.

                              Why would newer hardware be needed for network access?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                In our current environment we're very limited to the available 3.5" or 2.5" bays to install spinning rust, or SSD's.

                                But we have plenty of USB access on each of these systems.

                                Anyways that is outside of the scope of the question. Which if you had to purchase USB External storage, what would you purchase for use in a business (enterprise) environment.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Anyways that is outside of the scope of the question.

                                  It's not at all. We are trying to get you to think at the goal level, not at the "already selected solution" level. You should never hesitate to step back and think about your goals.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    My goal personally in any system would be to have the storage directly attached to the server. And not use external USB drives as network shares.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Which if you had to purchase USB External storage, what would you purchase for use in a business (enterprise) environment.

                                      Business and enterprise do not mean the same thing. Enterprises do not purchases USB drives, plain and simple. Businesses do all of the time. Nothing wrong with that, small businesses have very different needs than enterprises much of the time. The cost of managing individual USB drives is so high no enterprise would ever even talk about getting them.

                                      What you are looking for is SMB verging on home use storage literally falling just below the home line, in many ways.

                                      That you feel you need an enterprise class solution and are conflating that with wanting USB two bay storage and you are looking to replace a consumer unit means that the goal is blurry here. You are starting from a solution and trying to come up with a good way to do a non-enterprise action without stating what the final result is meant to be. IT should never work in a technical bubble without considering the business goal - that's what separates the IT from the button pushers, we need the business context.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        In our current environment we're very limited to the available 3.5" or 2.5" bays to install spinning rust, or SSD's.

                                        But we have plenty of USB access on each of these systems.

                                        None of this is a reason for what you are doing and suggests the goal has been missed. Yes that you CAN do USB is not in question. Presumably you have plenty of networking on your servers too. And you've mentioned being limited to every drive type - so essentially unlimited.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          In our current environment we're very limited to the available 3.5" or 2.5" bays to install spinning rust, or SSD's.

                                          OK, but what is wrong with NAS instead of USB attached storage? Unless you're using USB 3, NAS is often faster than USB 2.0. It's super easy to map almost any computer to use it over the network.

                                          But we have plenty of USB access on each of these systems.

                                          But why are you limited to USB or internal only use? Why not NAS?

                                          Anyways that is outside of the scope of the question. Which if you had to purchase USB External storage, what would you purchase for use in a business (enterprise) environment.

                                          Drobo has (or at least did in the past) have an 8 bay USB attached (or one server ISCSI attached) device. They may have a smaller one still for sale, I don't know though.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by scottalanmiller

                                            True, NAS would be an option. I'm simply looking at alternative in a very general light of anything other than laCie as 2 distinct units have both had drives fail with 3 weeks of each other.

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