Choosing a Cloud Computing IaaS Provider
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
They pay near min wage here. Sys Admins/Linux Admin/Network admins are like $10/hr or so.
They pay quite handsomely in the UK, maybe that'll be changing soon.
Is the end nigh for Rackspace?
Really? They are considered a desperation job in the US. Top end seniors cap out around $35k.
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@scottalanmiller Compared with other jobs you could be doing in the UK, they pay handsomely, nowhere near minimum wage. Had a guy from a 2 person bench shop to Rackspace and the income different was substantial.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller Compared with other jobs you could be doing in the UK, they pay handsomely, nowhere near minimum wage. Had a guy from a 2 person bench shop to Rackspace and the income different was substantial.
Bench work in the US is actually minimum wage. Any move from bench to IT would be expected to pay a big raise, even if only to $30K. But seniors at RS often make less than a helpdesk starter would in a normal firm.
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Shrugs different culture again? Even between north/south UK there is a crazy money gap, between London and the south there is a bigger gap still.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller Compared with other jobs you could be doing in the UK, they pay handsomely, nowhere near minimum wage. Had a guy from a 2 person bench shop to Rackspace and the income different was substantial.
Bench work in the US is actually minimum wage. Any move from bench to IT would be expected to pay a big raise, even if only to $30K. But seniors at RS often make less than a helpdesk starter would in a normal firm.
More like an increase from $15k minimum wage to around $20-$22k most of the time from what I know.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller Compared with other jobs you could be doing in the UK, they pay handsomely, nowhere near minimum wage. Had a guy from a 2 person bench shop to Rackspace and the income different was substantial.
Bench work in the US is actually minimum wage. Any move from bench to IT would be expected to pay a big raise, even if only to $30K. But seniors at RS often make less than a helpdesk starter would in a normal firm.
More like an increase from $15k minimum wage to around $20-$22k most of the time from what I know.
Which is a huge increase percentage-wise.
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For a all around service, I think you forgot about one provider there Scott. They have been around since the late 90s, own some of the largest datacenters in the US, and have seriously rock solid equipment behind it.
Verizon Terremark.
They provide a complete solution to everything, from colo, managed OS, VPS, to SaaS, VDR, and even lowly DNS services. They are a one stop shop for anything you need.
Mind you, I wouldn't be over there because of reasons, and I would prefer that you come to my new employer, but as compared to the others you listed, they offer the best of all worlds.
Now, if you need security, compliance, flat out speed and don't mind paying a few bucks for it, let me know.
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@PSX_Defector said:
Verizon Terremark.
Definitely not a player by any stretch for the SMB market. I've never seen a good IT shop in the enterprise that entertained them at all. They seem to be the domain of the "sales people bought you a golf club membership" set and not "IT selected best option for the company" set.
Verizon is an ISP, so that alone would put them on a very scary list. Not completely eliminate them from consideration, but Verizon's track record as Verizon is enough to make Terremark a complete no go for sure. Verizon is not a company I would want in charge of my infrastructure. That's a very scary thought.
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I love that if you Google them it looks like Terremark is gone. They don't even have the SEO to get on the first page of a search for them.
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Terremark appears to be gone and they don't appear to have a public IaaS offering. If you need a sales rep to use a $5 service, you've got major issues.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@PSX_Defector said:
Verizon Terremark.
Definitely not a player by any stretch for the SMB market. I've never seen a good IT shop in the enterprise that entertained them at all. They seem to be the domain of the "sales people bought you a golf club membership" set and not "IT selected best option for the company" set.
Verizon is an ISP, so that alone would put them on a very scary list. Not completely eliminate them from consideration, but Verizon's track record as Verizon is enough to make Terremark a complete no go for sure. Verizon is not a company I would want in charge of my infrastructure. That's a very scary thought.
Not that I agree or disagree, but there are some very serious entities that disagree with you. Just saying...
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@handsofqwerty said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@PSX_Defector said:
Verizon Terremark.
Definitely not a player by any stretch for the SMB market. I've never seen a good IT shop in the enterprise that entertained them at all. They seem to be the domain of the "sales people bought you a golf club membership" set and not "IT selected best option for the company" set.
Verizon is an ISP, so that alone would put them on a very scary list. Not completely eliminate them from consideration, but Verizon's track record as Verizon is enough to make Terremark a complete no go for sure. Verizon is not a company I would want in charge of my infrastructure. That's a very scary thought.
Not that I agree or disagree, but there are some very serious entities that disagree with you. Just saying...
...and by that I mean size and scope of the entity's IT needs.
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@handsofqwerty said:
Not that I agree or disagree, but there are some very serious entities that disagree with you. Just saying...
Ones whose IT would be considered serious? In some ways, by definition, that wouldn't be true.
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@handsofqwerty said:
...and by that I mean size and scope of the entity's IT needs.
That's very different than serious. Being large and being concerned about doing IT well or effectively aren't related.
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The NSA is very big, so they must make a good colo... and cloud backup.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
The NSA is very big, so they must make a good colo... and cloud backup.
LOL - frankly I'm surprised they don't offer it.
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@Dashrender said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
The NSA is very big, so they must make a good colo... and cloud backup.
LOL - frankly I'm surprised they don't offer it.
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@Dashrender said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
The NSA is very big, so they must make a good colo... and cloud backup.
LOL - frankly I'm surprised they don't offer it.
I know right. additional revenue for the data they already store.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@PSX_Defector said:
Verizon Terremark.
Definitely not a player by any stretch for the SMB market. I've never seen a good IT shop in the enterprise that entertained them at all. They seem to be the domain of the "sales people bought you a golf club membership" set and not "IT selected best option for the company" set.
Considering that they have tons of SMBs using the cloud service, a chunk using managed services, and a boatload using colo, I would think SMBs are well represented in the environment.
Verizon is an ISP, so that alone would put them on a very scary list. Not completely eliminate them from consideration, but Verizon's track record as Verizon is enough to make Terremark a complete no go for sure. Verizon is not a company I would want in charge of my infrastructure. That's a very scary thought.
This is something that really clouds the industry.
Verizon is not Verizon but is Verizon. Wireless is different than wireline which is different from long haul backbone traffic which is different from residental ISP. Maybe it's one umbrella, but they are very different divisions. You wouldn't fault GE for making poor products under one division when they make some fine stuff in others.
It's like when my boss wanted me to combine our AT&T bills into one big bill. You can't combine hi-cap lines with POTS and cellular. They are very different divisions.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Terremark appears to be gone and they don't appear to have a public IaaS offering. If you need a sales rep to use a $5 service, you've got major issues.
http://vcloudexpress.terremark.com/
There's your self serve portal.
