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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@scottalanmiller He also wears multi thousand dollar suits every weekend on his 'tv show'.
Well it's like those televangelists that actually spoke on and tried to justify the need for private jets. This is obviously not what true Christianity is about and I'm sure most people realize that. These are just public figures abusing religion for monetary gain.
Same religious philosophy of the private school that I went to in the 1980s. They preached wealth doctrine and everything looked to Victorian era rich tent preachers and nothing to the Bible. Exact same "bad things happen to bad people, rich people are to be worshipped" cult practices.
It rains on the just and unjust the same.
The unjust can afford their own jet to get the hell out of wherever it is raining. . .
Unless they're in Houston where flights are probably grounded....
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@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@scottalanmiller He also wears multi thousand dollar suits every weekend on his 'tv show'.
Well it's like those televangelists that actually spoke on and tried to justify the need for private jets. This is obviously not what true Christianity is about and I'm sure most people realize that. These are just public figures abusing religion for monetary gain.
Same religious philosophy of the private school that I went to in the 1980s. They preached wealth doctrine and everything looked to Victorian era rich tent preachers and nothing to the Bible. Exact same "bad things happen to bad people, rich people are to be worshipped" cult practices.
It rains on the just and unjust the same.
The unjust can afford their own jet to get the hell out of wherever it is raining. . .
Unless they're in Houston where flights are probably grounded....
Then you get on your yacht and sail / motor boat out. (pun intended)
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I guess I closed this conversation. . .
bad Dustin, BAD!
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
Not for nothing, but for millions of dollars, I'd be a preacher too.. . . F$%* IT at that point. . .
I know I'd be going to hell for sure too..
lol most preacher's don't end up with millions of dollars for the record.
And on the same note, I'd send down some bologna & cheese sandwichs and at least help. I wouldn't be a total prick about it.
I heard something about he would only open his doors if the Red Cross was already full. The real Christian thing to do would have been the first one to open the door BEFORE the Red Cross, give them what they need. If you can't fit another soul in, then start telling them to go to the Red Cross.
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
Exactly. Couldn't agree more with all of your points.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
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"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
The purpose of the church is many things:
- Help imperfect people become more like Christ
- Spread the Good News of the Gospel to everybody.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
The purpose of the church is many things:
- Help imperfect people become more like Christ
- Spread the Good News of the Gospel to everybody.
As everyone is imperfect, this applies to everyone. Pastors included.
edit: also to help support each other through personal struggles and to help with each other's relationship with God.
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@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
The purpose of the church is many things:
- Help imperfect people become more like Christ
- Spread the Good News of the Gospel to everybody.
As everyone is imperfect, this applies to everyone. Pastors included.
Absolutely.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
The purpose of the church is many things:
- Help imperfect people become more like Christ
- Spread the Good News of the Gospel to everybody.
Sorry to do this, but you're wrong.
The purpose of the church was there to act as a hostels as people would pass through. They would speak about religion and expect items in return. Ie to Make money.
Churches and religion are built around earning money for the Church.
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@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
As everyone is imperfect, this applies to everyone.
Even evil cult leaders.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
As everyone is imperfect, this applies to everyone.
Even evil cult leaders.
lol indeed, even evil cult leaders.
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@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@quixoticjeremy said in Non-IT News Thread:
As everyone is imperfect, this applies to everyone.
Even evil cult leaders.
lol indeed, even evil cult leaders.
Hey no one said Joel Osteen is an evil cult leader, he just happens to be stupidly rich for being a cult leader. . .
Most rich people don't just give away their fortune (there are some for sure)
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
"While you are here, do you know about Jesus?"
And watch how many people dive back into the flood waters to take their chances with the snakes and gators?
Thats their choice, but at least the church would be doing what it was originally meant to do.
I thought the original goal of the church was as a money grab to help people as they traveled. With the expectation of leaving something of value to the church as a form of gratitude. . . .
The purpose of the church is many things:
- Help imperfect people become more like Christ
- Spread the Good News of the Gospel to everybody.
Sorry to do this, but you're wrong.
The purpose of the church was there to act as a hostels as people would pass through. They would speak about religion and expect items in return. Ie to Make money.
Churches and religion are built around earning money for the Church.
I am sorry you feel this way. How do I explain this? The church in this world is just a congregation made up of imperfect people, doing what they can to help each other and the community around them. Are there hypocrites in the church? All of the time.
The real church is the bride of Christ. They/We're made up across the denominations and holds the true spirit. It is really difficult to explain online.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
It is really difficult to explain online.
Most cult following is difficult to explain, period.
I'm explaining history, and it's historically accurate that churches (of all kinds) acted as hostels, and held religious ceremony (Sunday Mass) and expected payment(tokens of gratitude) for it.
Payment or tokens of gratitude for shelter and food, which often (for the time) was way more money then shelter and food during travels was worth at any other hostel.
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All because for the benefits of being better than ones self by needing church to know not to steal from thy neighbor, or to not covet they neighbors wife, to not murder.
I get it some things needed to be taught, but don't put your blinders on in today's life and expect others to see the church as anything other than a business, built on religion.
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
All because for the benefits of being better than ones self by needing church to know not to steal from thy neighbor, or to not covet they neighbors wife, to not murder.
I get it some things needed to be taught, but don't put your blinders on in today's life and expect others to see the church as anything other than a business, built on religion.
If that is the way that you see it, then that is how you see it. You've made your decision and I have made mine. If you want to cast judgement on today's church because of the past church, then I think you are making an unjust assumption.
Do they ask for tithe? Yes. It costs money to keep the building open, keep the lights on, and pay the ministers their salaries. Like Jeremy said earlier, most pastors are not rich. Even those in small churches works a job outside of the church to pay their personal bills while still volunteer ministering at their church.
If you think I have blinders on, then you are sorely mistaken. I see what is going on in our country and I don't like one bit of it. People are at each others throats over everything. Is there any thing that I can do about that? No, except for Pray for them. That is all that I can do.
I am not examining history. I'm looking at the church now. Again, are we perfect? Not by a long shot. Are there hypocrites in the church? Absolutely, everywhere. But, I'd rather go to church with a hypocrite than to hell with one.
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I'm not here to argue that church is a bad thing, church as a whole adds some value, where I don't see it personally. I do for myself, address the issues in my life as they come up.
I help people without the expectation of payment when they need help.
If a church expects or request payment for things that others offer for free, where is the value in church?
