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    I bought a Jeep WJ with a possible bad NSS

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    • IRJI
      IRJ @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      That's a lot of dust and crap built up on the rims, make sure you check the brakes carefully.

      This post brought to you by things I've learned on /r/justrolledintotheshop

      Sweet deal though man!

      Yeah the previous owner told me the brakes were kind of sticky. Luckily like almost everything else on Jeeps the brakes are really easy to change. It only takes an hour to do the front and an hour to do the rear and that's if I am taking my time.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @gjacobse
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        @g.jacobse said:

        @IRJ
        It seems pretty clean for having 129k miles on it. Seems like an exceptional deal.

        Sadly I can't think of anything right off that would prevent you from starting it. Bad relay, blown fuse, and the things you specified. By bypassing everything and getting it started 'on it's own power' means that it's something between the ignition switch and the starter relay.

        The interior is absolutely horrible, but I think 90% of it will clean up. The leather seats are still good. Only a couple tiny tears on the driver seat and all the other ones are fine. The carpet on the passenger side looks like it may be shot, but who knows what magic powers good carpet cleaner will have.

        Side note: Do they sell armor all by the gallon?

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @IRJ
          last edited by MattSpeller

          @IRJ Just take the battery out, caulk shut the doors and fill it with 100% alcohol cleaner through the sunroof. It's the IT way.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
            last edited by IRJ

            So even if the brakes are completely shot..

            $19.80 for the front pads
            www.amazon.com/Dura-International-BP945-Front-Ceramic/dp/B0049U1BHI/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1422985364&vehicle=2000-42-349------------4-0&sr=1-6&ymm=2000%3Ajeep%3Agrand+cherokee&keywords=brake+pads

            $16.20 for rear pads
            www.amazon.com/Dura-International-BP791-Ceramic-Brake/dp/B001UC9RDI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=01QJCARSTX11R9GA1R0D

            $29.00 x2 for front rotors
            http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-18A937A-Advantage-Front-Brake/dp/B0031I2SO4/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1422985339&vehicle=2000-42-349------------4-0&sr=1-2&ymm=2000%3Ajeep%3Agrand+cherokee&keywords=brake+rotors

            $21.25 x2 for rear rotors
            www.amazon.com/ACDelco-18A938A-Advantage-Brake-Rotor/dp/B003YMTJBC/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1422985339&vehicle=2000-42-349------------4-0&sr=1-3&ymm=2000%3Ajeep%3Agrand+cherokee&keywords=brake+rotors

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by IRJ

              So $136.50 for an entire new brake system, but its HIGHLY unlikely to have to replace all 4 rotors at once.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
                last edited by IRJ

                I found a service manual for my jeep. Here is the wiring diagram for the starting system. I am jumping the Engine Start Motor Relay to get the jeep to start. Honestly, I wiring diagrams are tough for my to read. Maybe someone here can help me narrow down my problem
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                • IRJI
                  IRJ
                  last edited by

                  I can also tell you that the relay itself is not bad. The windshield wipers use the same relays with the same part number. One controls windshield wiper on/off and other windshield wiper speed. I know the wipers work and the jeep still wouldnt start when I swapped relays.

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad
                    last edited by

                    Man, you got a sweet deal on that ride. That is dirt cheap and not high mileage at all.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @StrongBad
                      last edited by

                      @StrongBad said:

                      Man, you got a sweet deal on that ride. That is dirt cheap and not high mileage at all.

                      Here are some interior pics. I spent a good 4 hours to get the interior to this point. It will clean up even more, but I was burned out at this point. You can see the dash and seats look good for the most part. The carpet in the back and the rear will definitely clean up and look pretty good. I think some of the spots on the front carpet may not come out, but I can't really complain too much. The before pictures are almost disturbing....

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        Before

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                        Yes that is crust all over the carpet. I am not sure how it got on there, but suprising some good scrubbing and heavy duty carpet cleaner took it out. The coins in the center console came out as one huge sticky clump. This thing was really disgusting

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
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                          After

                          Alot of this is just loose dirt that i scrubbed out, but its just too much work for my little vac. I will need to use a shop vac to really finish it right

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said:

                            After

                            Alot of this is just loose dirt that i scrubbed out, but its just too much work for my little vac. I will need to use a shop vac to really finish it right

                            This is basically a new car. I'm amazed that you were able to clean it up that well. Did you ever figure out the starting issue?

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @IRJ said:

                              After

                              Alot of this is just loose dirt that i scrubbed out, but its just too much work for my little vac. I will need to use a shop vac to really finish it right

                              This is basically a new car. I'm amazed that you were able to clean it up that well. Did you ever figure out the starting issue?

                              I have more updated information about the troubleshooting in this thread

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/773032-i-bought-a-jeep-wj-with-a-possible-bad-nss?page=1

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ
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                                95% of the specks on the seats and carpet are just loose dirt. I really need a highpower vaccuum to finish the detailing

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  KBB says its worth $2824 in good condition. After I replace the radiator and faulty NSS and possibly the igntion switch, I will have less than $1k in it. I would consider the vehicle in good condition after I finish the detailing and replace all the faulty parts because it runs absolutely great.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    Well done!

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                                    • gjacobseG
                                      gjacobse
                                      last edited by

                                      Don't know if you realize this yet... but you got robbed.... They took all your toll money!

                                      Looks great - can't beat that deal

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @StrongBad
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                                        @StrongBad said:

                                        Man, you got a sweet deal on that ride. That is dirt cheap and not high mileage at all.

                                        For a southern car, that's fine. If that was in the North, that's all you'd get for it...

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @thanksajdotcom
                                          last edited by

                                          @thanksaj said:

                                          @StrongBad said:

                                          Man, you got a sweet deal on that ride. That is dirt cheap and not high mileage at all.

                                          For a southern car, that's fine. If that was in the North, that's all you'd get for it...

                                          I was going to mention this... you are lucky if you can find a 12 year old junker in NY, the salt and snow really does a number on vehicles up here.... I've been looking for an old beater truck that is in ok shape for over a year now, just nothing like that survives up here.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @thanksaj said:

                                            @StrongBad said:

                                            Man, you got a sweet deal on that ride. That is dirt cheap and not high mileage at all.

                                            For a southern car, that's fine. If that was in the North, that's all you'd get for it...

                                            I was going to mention this... you are lucky if you can find a 12 year old junker in NY, the salt and snow really does a number on vehicles up here.... I've been looking for an old beater truck that is in ok shape for over a year now, just nothing like that survives up here.

                                            Yup, pretty much...

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