Why Google Considers Thunderbird to Be Less Secure
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Yes, both are bad. OWA at least acts like normal email and how people normally think of email. I find Gmail to be convoluted and so slow to deal with.
Zimbra and Rackspace have the best interfaces that I have seen. Clean, simple, intuitive and fast.
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I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
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@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
I think the idea is to get rid of email. though a great replacement isn't really here. A mashup of email and chat and OneNote would be awesome - I think O365 is kinda there, but as you all mention Lync just doesn't work well...
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
I think the idea is to get rid of email. though a great replacement isn't really here. A mashup of email and chat and OneNote would be awesome - I think O365 is kinda there, but as you all mention Lync just doesn't work well...
I really like how Google Hangouts has melded my Chat, Phones, and SMS messages into one application. It is really nice to be in the gmail interface and answer a call, or ask a quick question via chat and respond to an email. Really provides that nice single pane o' glass thing vendors are always talking about.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
I think the idea is to get rid of email. though a great replacement isn't really here. A mashup of email and chat and OneNote would be awesome - I think O365 is kinda there, but as you all mention Lync just doesn't work well...
I really like how Google Hangouts has melded my Chat, Phones, and SMS messages into one application. It is really nice to be in the gmail interface and answer a call, or ask a quick question via chat and respond to an email. Really provides that nice single pane o' glass thing vendors are always talking about.
Totally agree with this! I use Hangouts as my SMS app and have started doing more and more via my Google Voice account as it allows me to text via Hangouts from my PC or phone from the same number in the same conversations.
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@thanksaj said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
I think the idea is to get rid of email. though a great replacement isn't really here. A mashup of email and chat and OneNote would be awesome - I think O365 is kinda there, but as you all mention Lync just doesn't work well...
I really like how Google Hangouts has melded my Chat, Phones, and SMS messages into one application. It is really nice to be in the gmail interface and answer a call, or ask a quick question via chat and respond to an email. Really provides that nice single pane o' glass thing vendors are always talking about.
Totally agree with this! I use Hangouts as my SMS app and have started doing more and more via my Google Voice account as it allows me to text via Hangouts from my PC or phone from the same number in the same conversations.
Especially now that they've added MMS support through hangouts.
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@coliver said:
@thanksaj said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think gmail is trying to change the way people interact with email - and frankly that's probably a good thing.
They've always tried that and I think that it is very bad. It's all about unmanaged sprawl. It works for some use cases, but not general email.
I think the idea is to get rid of email. though a great replacement isn't really here. A mashup of email and chat and OneNote would be awesome - I think O365 is kinda there, but as you all mention Lync just doesn't work well...
I really like how Google Hangouts has melded my Chat, Phones, and SMS messages into one application. It is really nice to be in the gmail interface and answer a call, or ask a quick question via chat and respond to an email. Really provides that nice single pane o' glass thing vendors are always talking about.
Totally agree with this! I use Hangouts as my SMS app and have started doing more and more via my Google Voice account as it allows me to text via Hangouts from my PC or phone from the same number in the same conversations.
Especially now that they've added MMS support through hangouts.
Yup.
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I haven't tried letting all of that stuff connect on my Android device.
Does it allow the use of your real phone number, not a google voice number?
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@Dashrender said:
I haven't tried letting all of that stuff connect on my Android device.
Does it allow the use of your real phone number, not a google voice number?
You can text from your phone with your real number via Hangouts but not from your PC. When you SMS from your PC with Hangouts, it always uses Google Voice. Your phone just uses the last number that sent a text to the number your text as the source. You can switch back and forth and Hangouts aggregates it all into one thread in Hangouts. It's nice.
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@thanksaj said:
@Dashrender said:
I haven't tried letting all of that stuff connect on my Android device.
Does it allow the use of your real phone number, not a google voice number?
You can text from your phone with your real number via Hangouts but not from your PC. When you SMS from your PC with Hangouts, it always uses Google Voice. Your phone just uses the last number that sent a text to the number your text as the source. You can switch back and forth and Hangouts aggregates it all into one thread in Hangouts. It's nice.
The other side could be confused though if they don't have your google voice number in your contact, or worse, it can't aggregate sources.
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@Dashrender said:
@thanksaj said:
@Dashrender said:
I haven't tried letting all of that stuff connect on my Android device.
Does it allow the use of your real phone number, not a google voice number?
You can text from your phone with your real number via Hangouts but not from your PC. When you SMS from your PC with Hangouts, it always uses Google Voice. Your phone just uses the last number that sent a text to the number your text as the source. You can switch back and forth and Hangouts aggregates it all into one thread in Hangouts. It's nice.
The other side could be confused though if they don't have your google voice number in your contact, or worse, it can't aggregate sources.
Hangouts goes by contacts, so if you have someone who had 17 cellphone numbers and you had them all saved in your phone under one contact, all texts would be aggregated into one conversation. But yes, if someone doesn't have an SMS client that aggregates, it will make your texts via Google Voice and texts via your cell number as separate threads.
