PlayStation and XBOX Offline for Christmas
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30602609
Anyone impacted? We sure we're here where the family uses three PS3 units for all media. The hack took down the PSN but Sony forces you to be signed in to the PSN to use services like YouTube and Netflix. So Sony, not the hackers, crippled the devices here.
This was a strong reminder why I don't want to be tied to these crappy, fragile consoles anymore.
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Read about this yesterday. Was something promised earlier in the month by the hacker group supposedly responsible.
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They have done this in the past too. I remember a few Christmases where things did not work because of this. Yet Sony not only has done little or nothing to stop the DDoS but more importantly they keep their own denial of service system against their customers knowing that other services would be taken offline if the PSN went down, they just didn't care.
When it happened the first time, one could make an excuse that Sony wasn't at fault. Now, it is squarely Sony's fault that non-PSN services were offline. This is Sony simply denying service to their paying customers and is, as far as I am concern, illegal. Sony has an absolute obligation to keep their service up or unlock those services and not to bring down other services intentionally just because the PSN is down.
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@scottalanmiller said:
They have done this in the past too. I remember a few Christmases where things did not work because of this. Yet Sony not only has done little or nothing to stop the DDoS but more importantly they keep their own denial of service system against their customers knowing that other services would be taken offline if the PSN went down, they just didn't care.
When it happened the first time, one could make an excuse that Sony wasn't at fault. Now, it is squarely Sony's fault that non-PSN services were offline. This is Sony simply denying service to their paying customers and is, as far as I am concern, illegal. Sony has an absolute obligation to keep their service up or unlock those services and not to bring down other services intentionally just because the PSN is down.
Good luck with that in court.
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@Dashrender said:
Good luck with that in court.
It's not about court, it's about not buying any more of their adversarial "hates their customers" products. I never liked Sony as a company but I put up with them in the PS3 era. But they made sure that I wouldn't forget how much their despise their own customers and I'm not going to be that sucker again.
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I just hate the ecosystems that they force you into. Having to pay to play with your friends online? Pffft no thanks.
The one good feature of the play station is the hard drive and being able to use a standard SATA drive.
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I was on the verge of running out and buying one when this happened. Nope. Sony made sure that I didn't do that casually. I guess I can thank them for saving me some money
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It's times like these when I feel the need to remind gamers of the hierarchy
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I reposted that over to GamrHaus.
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Lol, righto.
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@nadnerB said:
I just hate the ecosystems that they force you into. Having to pay to play with your friends online? Pffft no thanks.
How is this any different than the iTunes store? I have to say after hearing Steve Gibson's break down of the security within the iPhone, I'm very impressed, and it truly seems like they care about their customer's security and privacy (see their sorta recent upgrade so even they can't unencrypted your phone). That said I hate the fact that I'm forced to buy everything from them, and only them, what they deem acceptable for me to have.
I do understand this is a rather large part of the security they provide (but really the apps in iTunes aren't really scanned that much better than those in the Play store - but we can talk about that in another post), but it seems everyone is trying to get on this forced/tied in ecosystem these days. Google has it with the Play store, Amazon has it with the Kindle Fire and the Amazon App store, obviously Apple and iDevices and App Store, Sony and PSN and MS with the Xbox Live Network.
UG!
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And that's why I don't use iTunes
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@scottalanmiller said:
And that's why I don't use iTunes
yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?
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@Dashrender said:
yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?
Yes but iTunes has not been needed for it in many generations.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
yet you use an iPhone, right? do you not have any apps on it? or music or movies, etc?
Yes but iTunes has not been needed for it in many generations.
OK sub App Store for iTunes - same difference.
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App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.
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@scottalanmiller said:
App Store is very different from PlayStation network. It's just a delivery system. I don't need it for anything. If it is offline, everything keeps working.
True, it's not the same as the crippling situation that Sony has put us in with PSN, but it's not just a delivery system either. It's the ONLY delivery system with Apple's guards at the gate only allowing content they allow - so granted, different problem, but still a problem.
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It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
Without jailbreaking?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
It's a problem that I prefer, though. Microsoft and Google do not do this and their systems are impossible to use. I do wish that you could easily add a third party system if you wanted, and you can, just not easily.
Without jailbreaking?
Correct. You have to use the system that companies use to push their own code. If you own an iPhone, you can deploy your own stuff to it.
