Snowstorm in Syracuse
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@thanksaj said:
I thought I told you that there is a decent chance I could be moving to Rochester...
Nope and... why?
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You wont be able to find an IT job here at all. Even a Sales Job in a store would be difficult. There is a reason why people are leaving Rochester/NYS in droves.
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@thanksaj said:
Is there anywhere in that area that has FiOS?
Buffalo was the first city to get FiOS. It was the test city. But Rochester is not a Verizon area, so Verizon doesn't have coverage anywhere around there. You are stuck with Frontier. Rochester is the worst Internet access in the nation AFAIK. It is truly horrible. Buffalo, on the other hand, is great.
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@Minion-Queen said:
You wont be able to find an IT job here at all. Even a Sales Job in a store would be difficult. There is a reason why people are leaving Rochester/NYS in droves.
Rochester especially, though, probably no worse city in the state. Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, Utica, Binghamton... all likely better.
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@thanksaj said:
I can't stand living in the country. I like living in cities.
Then Rochester is NOT the "city" for you.
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If I was going to return to Rochester, I would live in the South Wedge. Only part of town that I like.
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Even trying to find a job in Buffalo is bad. Jobs here in the Rochester/Buffalo area are just not plentiful.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Even trying to find a job in Buffalo is bad. Jobs here in the Rochester/Buffalo area are just not plentiful.
No but there are more there, better transportation options, it is a far nicer city and it is half the distance to where he wants to "visit" while living there. Makes tons more sense from both a job and life perspective.
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I don't think I will be returning to NY.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@thanksaj Loved living in Rochester... except for that whole being in a city thing.
Who thinks of Rochester as a city? Even downtown feels less like a city than, say, Binghamton or Utica!
Rochester is most definitely something I would consider a city. Although it was much easier to drive around then NYC or Albany. I don't think I really see Utica or Binghamton as any more or less city like...
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@coliver said:
Rochester is most definitely something I would consider a city. Although it was much easier to drive around then NYC or Albany. I don't think I really see Utica or Binghamton as any more or less city like...
Having lived in Rochester, it lacks any city feeling. It is so small and sprawling. You never get that feeling like you do in a normal city. It's like an endless suburb.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Rochester is most definitely something I would consider a city. Although it was much easier to drive around then NYC or Albany. I don't think I really see Utica or Binghamton as any more or less city like...
Having lived in Rochester, it lacks any city feeling. It is so small and sprawling. You never get that feeling like you do in a normal city. It's like an endless suburb.
That's pretty much what I like.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Rochester is most definitely something I would consider a city. Although it was much easier to drive around then NYC or Albany. I don't think I really see Utica or Binghamton as any more or less city like...
Having lived in Rochester, it lacks any city feeling. It is so small and sprawling. You never get that feeling like you do in a normal city. It's like an endless suburb.
Can't that be said for many southern cities as well? Even Albany has somewhat of a sprawl, although not as much as Rochester... or Buffalo for that matter.
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@thanksaj said:
That's pretty much what I like.
You should say that you like suburbs then, not that you like cities. Very different things. I like cities. I like living in high rises and being able (and needing) to walk to everything. I like public transportation and tons of people and resources.
I also like the country. The one thing that I don't like are suburbs.
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@coliver said:
Can't that be said for many southern cities as well? Even Albany has somewhat of a sprawl, although not as much as Rochester... or Buffalo for that matter.
Yes, Dallas, for example, has almost no city. It's horrible. But Austin and Houston have huge city centers.
Albany at a fraction the "size" of Rochester has so much more "city." It's all centralized and feels like a real metropolitan area. Rochester lacks that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
That's pretty much what I like.
You should say that you like suburbs then, not that you like cities. Very different things. I like cities. I like living in high rises and being able (and needing) to walk to everything. I like public transportation and tons of people and resources.
I also like the country. The one thing that I don't like are suburbs.
I like the mix between country and high-rises, which is the suburbs.
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I can't stand high-rises. Three-story apartment buildings drive me nuts as it is!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Can't that be said for many southern cities as well? Even Albany has somewhat of a sprawl, although not as much as Rochester... or Buffalo for that matter.
Yes, Dallas, for example, has almost no city. It's horrible. But Austin and Houston have huge city centers.
Albany at a fraction the "size" of Rochester has so much more "city." It's all centralized and feels like a real metropolitan area. Rochester lacks that.
Oh I see what you are saying... I wasn't understanding your definition of city. I was thinking more along the lines of population density. Yes Rochester lacks a huge city center proportional to its size. It is "unique" in that way for northern cities, however I still think many southern cities like Charlotte, Jacksonville , even Atlanta have a huge suburb to city-center ratio.
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@coliver said:
Oh I see what you are saying... I wasn't understanding your definition of city. I was thinking more along the lines of population density. Yes Rochester lacks a huge city center proportional to its size. It is "unique" in that way for northern cities, however I still think many southern cities like Charlotte, Jacksonville , even Atlanta have a huge suburb to city-center ratio.
Rochester has a suburb that is expected to actually surpass the city in population. Rochester, technically, is about to become a suburb of Greece
I've worked in every city in NY almost (including places like Auburn, Jamestown, Schenectady, Poughkeepsie, Johnson City, Endicott, Cortland, Ithaca, etc.) Rochester really stands out as lacking a city feel. Even standing right in the middle of the big buildings they just feel like big buildings in a suburb. Ithaca's secondary downtown area (collegetown) actually feels more like a real city and has more to do than Rochester's actual city center.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Oh I see what you are saying... I wasn't understanding your definition of city. I was thinking more along the lines of population density. Yes Rochester lacks a huge city center proportional to its size. It is "unique" in that way for northern cities, however I still think many southern cities like Charlotte, Jacksonville , even Atlanta have a huge suburb to city-center ratio.
Rochester has a suburb that is expected to actually surpass the city in population. Rochester, technically, is about to become a suburb of Greece
I've worked in every city in NY almost (including places like Auburn, Jamestown, Schenectady, Poughkeepsie, Johnson City, Endicott, Cortland, Ithaca, etc.) Rochester really stands out as lacking a city feel. Even standing right in the middle of the big buildings they just feel like big buildings in a suburb. Ithaca's secondary downtown area (collegetown) actually feels more like a real city and has more to do than Rochester's actual city center.
Downtown Rochester, around the Blue Cross Arena, has a pretty "city" feel, even by your definition. It isn't very big though.
