Apple Announcement Sept. 2014
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@IRJ said:
@ajstringham said:
@Minion-Queen said:
For me stability of what I use on it and need to use work wise is why I am on IOS. I tried Windows Phones and look forward to that being more stable. Phone, email and texting must work at all times and having my Office 365 stuff just work. I don't need or want to customize anything.
You're not really IT though. Android is designed for slightly more technical users. I call iOS the stupid-simple mobile platform. It's designed for your everyday person who wants to get their iCloud account hacked and their nude photos put online for the world to see.
I disagree with this. I have the most non technical users that have Galaxy or LG phones. They can do whatever they need to do on their device. There is just a small learning curve.
Android is far easier than it used to be, and it still not hard. However, the real reason people use iPhones is for the brand. Being able to say "I have an iPhone" is a notoriety variable. People do it for the same reason that 99% (not 100%) of people use Macs. It's a prestige thing. That's, quite honestly, the biggest reason most people use iPhones.
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@IRJ said:
Sure there is a small learning curve on Android phones, but we are technical and it isn't that difficult compared to troubleshooting Windows, Mac OS, or Linux operating systems.
Gee, this was a little condescending. I'm not talking about "small learning curve" problems, I'm talking about at least 10 Android phones from different manufacturers having similar, varied problems with consistently not getting email, internet not working, phone connection suddenly stopping, etc. Not things that us little ole' techie people can fix.
Also, I already said that I'm getting a 6 so that I have more time before it's obsolete. Our first gen iPad is at it's highest iOS and it's annoying that new apps don't work on it. Trying to give myself more time before being a problem on a new phone.
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@Dominica said:
@IRJ said:
Sure there is a small learning curve on Android phones, but we are technical and it isn't that difficult compared to troubleshooting Windows, Mac OS, or Linux operating systems.
Gee, this was a little condescending. I'm not talking about "small learning curve" problems, I'm talking about at least 10 Android phones from different manufacturers having similar, varied problems with consistently not getting email, internet not working, phone connection suddenly stopping, etc. Not things that us little ole' techie people can fix.
Also, I already said that I'm getting a 6 so that I have more time before it's obsolete. Our first gen iPad is at it's highest iOS and it's annoying that new apps don't work on it. Trying to give myself more time before being a problem on a new phone.
I didn't mean to come across that way. In my other posts I mentioned that its come a long way from 2.0 in many different ways including ease of use and stability. It sounds like you havent used it in awhile so I was trying to be helpful
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I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
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@IRJ said:
I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
Ironically, those tend to be more stable and lightweight. It's just the flashing process that can be risky is all. And even that is very low nowadays.
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@ajstringham said:
@IRJ said:
I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
Ironically, those tend to be more stable and lightweight. It's just the flashing process that can be risky is all. And even that is very low nowadays.
In a way, but many times you lose features or experience random crashes. Trust me, I have played with alot of roms
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@IRJ said:
@Dominica If you are worried about transitioning to Android. You could always get the Amazon Firephone. It isnt the top of the line Andorid phone, but it comes with almost instant support for any question you want. According to most reviewers they received a technician willing to help out in less than 30 seconds. They answer any question you have and can help you find any particular setting you are looking for.
I seriously can't figure out why you're assuming that I couldn't handle using an Android. I never said it was too technical for me, and I'm not sure why you're going that route with your "answers".
I said that the phones I and my close family members owned were total crap that didn't work most of the time. That's not a technical issue, that's a piece of crap hardware. Maybe they are better now, but they were so bad when I gave them a chance, that I'm not willing to give them another shot.
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Thanks AJ, it's not that I can't learn Android as a matter of fact I have an android phone I use to trouble shoot issues on for clients. Notice I just said I have one just for trouble shooting issues? That being said I don't have to do that on my IPhone or even windows phone (though I will readily admit it is very unstable). It really comes down to personal preference.
However IPhone and IOS is super stable because it is Locked down there is good and bad that goes with that. But it is STABLE no question about that from anyone anywhere no matter what you prefer to use.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Thanks AJ, it's not that I can't learn Android as a matter of fact I have an android phone I use to trouble shoot issues on for clients. Notice I just said I have one just for trouble shooting issues? That being said I don't have to do that on my IPhone or even windows phone (though I will readily admit it is very unstable). It really comes down to personal preference.
However IPhone and IOS is super stable because it is Locked down there is good and bad that goes with that. But it is STABLE no question about that from anyone anywhere no matter what you prefer to use.
I didn't say you couldn't learn it. I don't think @IRJ was saying @Dominica couldn't learn Android. The point I was making is that a lot of people buy iPhone for the prestige and because it is, I will admit, in many ways simpler than Android. Prestige is still the single biggest factor outside IT. But you are right, it's preference. I prefer Android, you prefer iOS. In the end, whatever works for the task we have for it best will get the job done.
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@Dominica Sorry if this threads comes across as condescending. It's not meant to be, as I know @IRJ agrees.
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@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc.
It was the first sentence that threw me off. I know you're technical. I have no problem contacting support when working with a new product, especially if its available for free.
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@IRJ said:
@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc.
It was the first sentence that threw me off. I know you're technical. I have no problem contacting support when working with a new product, especially if its available for free.
You're digging a bigger hole for yourself dude...
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I'm sad they increased the screen size. 4 inches is just right for me - I want a phone that I can reach all around the screen with one hand.
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@ajstringham said:
@IRJ said:
@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc.
It was the first sentence that threw me off. I know you're technical. I have no problem contacting support when working with a new product, especially if its available for free.
You're digging a bigger hole for yourself dude...
ugh whatever AJ. The situation was cooling down. I'm not biting anymore
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Yeah I want to hold the phone before I make a decision on it. I am not sure it will fit in my pocket! The whole Phablet thing isn't appealing to me.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Yeah I want to hold the phone before I make a decision on it. I am not sure it will fit in my pocket! The whole Phablet thing isn't appealing to me.
That's why I didn't get a Note 3. I got an S4 instead. I want something I can sit down with in my pocket. LOL
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@ajstringham said:
@Dominica Sorry if this threads comes across as condescending. It's not meant to be, as I know @IRJ agrees.
My stress level is very high and I havent slept well in almost two weeks. My fiance is 8 months pregnant and may have Cholestasis
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@IRJ said:
@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc.
It was the first sentence that threw me off. I know you're technical. I have no problem contacting support when working with a new product, especially if its available for free.
Like I said, not a matter of support. The phones were sh!t. Support sent new phones, 5 phones in a row, as a matter of fact, each one a piece of crap with something else wrong with it! No thanks. I don't have the time or desire to mess around with an Android, just because it's not an iPhone, and so many "technie's" won't use iPhones just cause they are Apple devices, and "techies" consider themselves "too cool for Apple". I'm way more secure in my geekiness than that.
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@IRJ said:
@ajstringham said:
@Dominica Sorry if this threads comes across as condescending. It's not meant to be, as I know @IRJ agrees.
My stress level is very high and I havent slept well in almost two weeks. My fiance is 8 months pregnant and may have Cholestasis
Sorry to hear that. The sleep part, I'm right there with you. I haven't had a sound night sleep in, literally, months. I am exhausted but can't sleep. Damn manic episode...
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@Dominica said:
@IRJ said:
@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc.
It was the first sentence that threw me off. I know you're technical. I have no problem contacting support when working with a new product, especially if its available for free.
Like I said, not a matter of support. The phones were sh!t. Support sent new phones, 5 phones in a row, as a matter of fact, each one a piece of crap with something else wrong with it! No thanks. I don't have the time or desire to mess around with an Android, just because it's not an iPhone, and so many "technie's" won't use iPhones just cause they are Apple devices, and "techies" consider themselves "too cool for Apple". I'm way more secure in my geekiness than that.
Lol. "More secure in my geekiness". Not usually the context I use that statement in. ROFL
