Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet
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@flaxking said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
@scottalanmiller said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
@Emad-R said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
I truly think containers will make CM obsolete. If not already.
I think more the other way around. Containers are important, but mostly hype. At least app containers like you are talking about. Full containers are best managed by CM. CM and containers are a perfect pairing.
If a server container is immutable, then why would there be need to actively manage the live configuration?
But IS it immutable? How often do you get that?
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@scottalanmiller said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
@flaxking said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
@scottalanmiller said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
@Emad-R said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
I truly think containers will make CM obsolete. If not already.
I think more the other way around. Containers are important, but mostly hype. At least app containers like you are talking about. Full containers are best managed by CM. CM and containers are a perfect pairing.
If a server container is immutable, then why would there be need to actively manage the live configuration?
But IS it immutable? How often do you get that?
It doesn't matter.
It's like saying now that we have light bulbs, we no longer need electricity.Edit, maybe that doesn't do my thought justice... electric wires maybe?
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@flaxking said in Which is easier to learn Ansible or Chef or Puppet:
The whole container/CM thing is kind of at a weird place right now. With containers, we've sort of migrated back to the golden image thing, just with the pressure to create an image using a config file. I don't really like images on docker hub that don't have links to the dockerfile.
Yes, images that can't be tweaked without rebuilding. It's has benefits, and a lot of caveats. Having to deploy new containers for every patch is pretty silly. And so many things can't be immutable, including the platform on which the containers run.
At the end of the day, containers are either mutable, or immutable. The former need CM inside the container, the later need it outside the container.
