How do YOU demo VDI?
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We have been doing TS for decades. We have been VMimg Servers for years. We are now beginning to move TS customers to Windows 10 Pro hosted by Hyper-V.
And now we have a customer asking about moving 250 PCs to VDI. Without getting in to the "what is and is not VDI" discussion, and without looking at cost for VDI v. simple SMB hosted Windows VMs with a direct 1-to-1 usage; How do you demo for your customers, what customers so casually call VDI? (Windows 10 VM, Thin client for access).
I started looking around for a simple cloud based solution, but there are enough stumbling blocks that I wanted to ask here before I start to resolve any of them (ie; AWS Workspace - No Thin Client Support, Cloud based VM on slow ASYNC cable ISP connection for large file usage when the file is in house, etc)
I appreciate your thoughts.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
How do you demo for your customers, what customers so casually call VDI?
Just throw Windows 10 in a VM, let them see. That's all VDI is.
Pretty much everyone using VDI uses it because someone heard the word and demanded that they use it, without looking up to see what it meant.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
(ie; AWS Workspace - No Thin Client Support)
Has to support Thin Clients, no other option. Anything you use with VDI is a thin client by definition.
AWS' problem is that it doesn't support Windows 10.
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@scottalanmiller But they want to see the Thin client doing the work.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller But they want to see the Thin client doing the work.
What do you mean? The term thin client = not doing the work. That's what the "thin" piece means.
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@scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.
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The term for something doing work on the client is called a fat client. Thin vs fat means just showing the work vs. doing the work.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.
What do you mean? Why can't you? Just hook it up.
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@scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.
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@scottalanmiller said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
How do you demo for your customers, what customers so casually call VDI?
Just throw Windows 10 in a VM, let them see. That's all VDI is.
Pretty much everyone using VDI uses it because someone heard the word and demanded that they use it, without looking up to see what it meant.
"what it meant" is expensive for users who want Microsoft.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.
Here are Amazon's instructions for doing exactly that...
https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/connect-workspace-rdp/
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@scottalanmiller You can't access AWS with RDP. The Thin clients we prefer only have RDP and Citrix
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.
I'm confused. Thin client is what views remote sessions. Anything that does that is a thin client.
Do you mean a hardware thin client (like the Wyse box) as opposed to the thin client software (like Reminna?)
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller You can't access AWS with RDP. The Thin clients we prefer only have RDP and Citrix
Yes, you can. I just provided Amazon's how to.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.
What?
What Scott is saying is that with a Thin client, all of the processing is being done remotely. A user using RDP to access to Thin client doesn't "show" them anything. They simply have a Windows environment to work with.
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@scottalanmiller You need to type SLOWER, I was answering your earlier comment when you posted again, and again, and again....
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Some quick terms because this is NECESSARY to avoid a cluster F of confusion.
VDI = one to one virtualization accessed remotely (via RDP, ICA, NX, Xterm, Amazon's client, etc.)
Thin Client = the software that accesses any of these protocols.
Thin Client Hardware = the box that does nothing but run the software above.Let's stick to these and clarify if we diverge so that we are all on the same page.
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@JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:
@scottalanmiller You need to type SLOWER, I was answering your earlier comment when you posted again, and again, and again....
No, but he does need to stop spewing bullshit until the OP replies.
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@DustinB3403 Maybe we should get back to the base question, since I already know how VDI works. I'll rephrase the question. When you walk in the door to demo VDI, what do you have with you?
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If you have a Wyse client, as an example, and want to demo VDI, basically any VDI solution will support that (virtually, mine doesn't, but most do) so just have the "box" ready, and attach to any service you want to demo.
