If Windows become subscription based...
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Now to undermine your thread, I think a more interesting remote possibility is: what if Windows (for some uses) becomes free? Well, as free as far as the user is concerned or sees it anyway. Doubtful for servers, but for everything else depending on the way devices go it may force Microsoft's hand. They ended up making free versions of things like Visual Studio, they're stunted, but they work... I never thought they'd even do that.
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@tonyshowoff said in If Windows become subscription based...:
Now to undermine your thread, I think a more interesting remote possibility is: what if Windows (for some uses) becomes free? Well, as free as far as the user is concerned or sees it anyway. Doubtful for servers, but for everything else depending on the way devices go it may force Microsoft's hand. They ended up making free versions of things like Visual Studio, they're stunted, but they work... I never thought they'd even do that.
This could be completely possible as well and would be great, and they probably already earn a fair amount with the Microsoft store and bundling apps like candy crush to support this direction.
I didn't create this thread because I believe Microsoft are taking this path or because it's my opinion, I was just interested if people would pay monthly for their OS, or wherever it would push them in another direction..
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@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
@tonyshowoff said in If Windows become subscription based...:
Now to undermine your thread, I think a more interesting remote possibility is: what if Windows (for some uses) becomes free? Well, as free as far as the user is concerned or sees it anyway. Doubtful for servers, but for everything else depending on the way devices go it may force Microsoft's hand. They ended up making free versions of things like Visual Studio, they're stunted, but they work... I never thought they'd even do that.
This could be completely possible as well and would be great, and they probably already earn a fair amount with the Microsoft store and bundling apps like candy crush to support this direction.
I didn't create this thread because I believe Microsoft are taking this path or because it's my opinion, I was just interested if people would pay monthly for their OS, or wherever it would push them in another direction..
I would pay monthly for my OS, but I wouldn't pay for Windows (and I don't.) Most people pay for Windows already, so moving to paying in a more sensible way wouldn't be a big barrier. I'm often shocked at how many people pay for poorly working OSes, when more solid ones are free. But for a really good one, I'd be okay with paying monthly. I'm glad that I don't have to, but it wouldn't be a big deal.
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@scottalanmiller said in If Windows become subscription based...:
@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
@tonyshowoff said in If Windows become subscription based...:
Now to undermine your thread, I think a more interesting remote possibility is: what if Windows (for some uses) becomes free? Well, as free as far as the user is concerned or sees it anyway. Doubtful for servers, but for everything else depending on the way devices go it may force Microsoft's hand. They ended up making free versions of things like Visual Studio, they're stunted, but they work... I never thought they'd even do that.
This could be completely possible as well and would be great, and they probably already earn a fair amount with the Microsoft store and bundling apps like candy crush to support this direction.
I didn't create this thread because I believe Microsoft are taking this path or because it's my opinion, I was just interested if people would pay monthly for their OS, or wherever it would push them in another direction..
I would pay monthly for my OS, but I wouldn't pay for Windows (and I don't.) Most people pay for Windows already, so moving to paying in a more sensible way wouldn't be a big barrier. I'm often shocked at how many people pay for poorly working OSes, when more solid ones are free. But for a really good one, I'd be okay with paying monthly. I'm glad that I don't have to, but it wouldn't be a big deal.
If I may repeat the constantly repeated non-sense from the super Windows IT warriors:
Hurr durr, ya get what ya pay for!
P.S. I don't know a damn thing about my own job.
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@scottalanmiller well I know the licence cost is included in most pc builds like dell etc when you buy a machine, but I don't see them somehow lowering the cost of the machine if you did have to have windows on a subscription, so technically you would probably be paying more.
And let's not forget once everyone is on subscription that Microsoft can shoot up the prices when they want.
They Soon raised 365 pricing without much backlash..
Office 2019 on premise is getting a 10% price rise, to probably push more over to 365.
That's a tactical move and Microsoft defently know what they are doing.
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And the debate on Linux Vs windows, I love Linux and would run it everyday if I could, I've said before if I do move over it would be to Deepin.
Unfortunately their are certain applications I need to use that are only Windows based..
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@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
@scottalanmiller well I know the licence cost is included in most pc builds like dell etc when you buy a machine, but I don't see them somehow lowering the cost of the machine if you did have to have windows on a subscription, so technically you would probably be paying more.
That wouldn't make sense, though. Now the question would be... would you be willing to pay TWICE for Windows... BOTH buying it up front AND paying a subscription price for it again. That would be crazy and is nothing like the original question, that's just "would you keep paying for Windows if the price doubled suddenly", and the issue is the greater cost, not the subscription pricing.
But in the real world, the price WOULD come down, it would have to. As it is, the belief is that Windows has to go free to compete as it is, and in many cases has already gone free. From updates to initial installs, Windows is getting moved to free, not doubled in price.
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@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
And let's not forget once everyone is on subscription that Microsoft can shoot up the prices when they want.
Not really, because people can drop them instantly, too. It's a risky move to jump prices on a service that can be cancelled anytime.
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@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
Office 2019 on premise is getting a 10% price rise, to probably push more over to 365.
Sure, but that's still better than cutting the non-subscription pricing. It's not on premises, both versions are on premises. It's just subscription versus non-subscription pricing.
But they don't double dip, it is one or the other.
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@stuartjordan said in If Windows become subscription based...:
@scottalanmiller well I know the licence cost is included in most pc builds like dell etc when you buy a machine, but I don't see them somehow lowering the cost of the machine if you did have to have windows on a subscription, so technically you would probably be paying more.
And let's not forget once everyone is on subscription that Microsoft can shoot up the prices when they want.
They Soon raised 365 pricing without much backlash..
Where are you seeing that? The main O365 products, which are Hosted Exchange (E0), E1 and E3 have remained stable since O365 has been released. Not one penny of a price hike, yet more and more features have been added to the package. Given the rise in features, and given inflation, the price has actually decreased, not increased, over the entire life of the product category.
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@scottalanmiller said in If Windows become subscription based...:
Hosted Exchange (E0)
There is no such thing.
I assume that you mean Exchange Online Plan 1.
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