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    • IRJ
      IRJ last edited by

      https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/03/a-major-kernel-vulnerability-is-going-to-slow-down-all-intel-processors-2/amp/

      This is bad!!

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      • DustinB3403
        DustinB3403 last edited by

        Wonderful.

        Now the NSA doesn't even need to access "your system" they just need to be on the same server to get access to whatever they want.

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        • scottalanmiller
          scottalanmiller last edited by

          This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

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          • IRJ
            IRJ @scottalanmiller last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

            This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

            Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller @IRJ last edited by

              @irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

              @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

              This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

              Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

              All the more reason to drop Windows, too.

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller last edited by

                Writing this from my Linux on AMD desktop 😉

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                • DustinB3403
                  DustinB3403 @IRJ last edited by

                  @irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                  This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

                  Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

                  That's fine, if you can afford windows, just buy Datacenter everything. Problem solved.

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                  • momurda
                    momurda last edited by

                    Ludicrous that the fixes are still under NDA, with comments in the fix redacted.

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                    • DustinB3403
                      DustinB3403 last edited by

                      "Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines, aka FUCKWIT" is the issue

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                        @irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                        This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

                        Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

                        That's fine, if you can afford windows, just buy Datacenter everything. Problem solved.

                        No it doesn't solve a thing. The problem applies to DC exactly the same as any other version.

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller @momurda last edited by

                          @momurda said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                          Ludicrous that the fixes are still under NDA, with comments in the fix redacted.

                          yeah, how is that possible? Is the US gov't hiding this?

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ last edited by

                            @irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                            This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

                            Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

                            Intel procs just doubled in price compared to AMD, Windows might be a lot better on AMD today than before.

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                            • DustinB3403
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller it was a response about how everyone is vulnerable to this issue. Microsoft licensing is simplified once you go "Datacenter".

                              You just need stupidly deep pockets.

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                @dustinb3403 said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                                @scottalanmiller it was a response about how everyone is vulnerable to this issue. Microsoft licensing is simplified once you go "Datacenter".

                                You just need stupidly deep pockets.

                                It's not simplified, though, it's just cheaper past 13VMs. At 12 VMs, Standard is still better. DC still has all the core counting complexity of other versions. DC is just as simple as Standard.

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                                • scottalanmiller
                                  scottalanmiller last edited by

                                  Does AMD have a sixteen core server proc released yet? If so, Windows on AMD just became the go to solution.

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                                  • scottalanmiller
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ last edited by

                                    @irj said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                                    This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

                                    Windows licensing isn't favorable to AMD

                                    Actually, it's PERFECT for AMD now. It's more favourable for AMD than for Intel by a long shot (as of today.) AMD Epyc 16 core single proc is now nearly double the performance of the Intel counterpart (or half the cost, however you want to look at it) with the same Windows licensing.

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller last edited by

                                      A base Windows license core count is sixteen. So dual proc EPYC 7251 or single proc 7281, 7301, 7351, or 7351P procs incur no Windows licensing penalties.

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                                      • IRJ
                                        IRJ last edited by

                                        This might be the worst vulnerability we've seen to date...

                                        You can plan for patching and maintenance. You cannot plan for unexpectedly losing resources. Can you imagine how many cloud providers this is going to affect. They share so many services across so many servers, I doubt they could afford to take a 30% resource hit. It could take down their whole environment.

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                                        • DustinB3403
                                          DustinB3403 @IRJ last edited by

                                          @irj That is why the Linux Kernel dev team was passionately referring to this issue as FUCKWIT aka Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines.

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                                            StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Major Intel CPU vulnerability:

                                            This year has really shown that Intel has no idea what they are doing. Time to get to AMD and ARM procs and stay there.

                                            ARM's impacted.

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