Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App
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Pictures were not loading. These are the responses that I made to Avast. Several were deleted by mods (that Avast pays) which makes the whole thing that much worse.
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The worst thing is that Avast pays for the privilege of posting, and then posts that point out that they are lying get deleted. Then additional posts pointing this out get deleted. Whether directly told to do so or not, an agent paid by Avast had posts pointing out that Avast was doing things wrong deleted. As Avast is paying the bills there, there is a huge responsibility to not act with inpropriety because there is money involved and this is a hugely serious ethics issue. And that the issue is already one of Avast's ethics, it's just adding fuel to the fire.
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I only ever used the portable version from portableapps.com
No install necessary and it, well, I used to use it from a USB stick every now and then.Personally, I'd rather pay for RevoUninstaller (free version only does 32 bit software). It runs the uninstall (like appwiz.cpl), and does a post uninstall cleanup of left overs (registry items, files, and folders).
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There is an open source competitor now I think tht is supposed to be pretty good.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
There is an open source competitor now I think tht is supposed to be pretty good.
Is Bulk Crap Uninstaller that you are thinking of?
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@black3dynamite said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@scottalanmiller said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
There is an open source competitor now I think tht is supposed to be pretty good.
Is Bulk Crap Uninstaller that you are thinking of?
Not sure, but does not sound familiar.
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@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
So much for “just remove the old version of Ccleaner. There’s nothing to worry about”.
Avast have just shot themselves in the foot in a very public way.
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@nadnerb said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
So much for “just remove the old version of Ccleaner. There’s nothing to worry about”.
Avast have just shit themselves in the foot in a very public way.
Yep the poo they were slinging at Cisco landed squarely at their own feet.
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And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
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@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
Most of the things it was removing are security issues, viruses, malware, keylogger etc. It's always been a security appliance. Just because it performed janitorial duties as well (like removing temp files) doesn't mean it's not a security appliance.
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@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
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@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
Avast recently purchases Piriform (the original developers of CCleaner).
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@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
Avast recently purchases Piriform (the original developers of CCleaner).
Correct. So Avast transversely owns CCleaner.
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@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
Avast recently purchases Piriform (the original developers of CCleaner).
Correct. So Avast transversely owns CCleaner.
Did avast own Piriform and CCleaner at the time of this breach? (I haven't looked that up)
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@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
Avast recently purchases Piriform (the original developers of CCleaner).
Correct. So Avast transversely owns CCleaner.
Did avast own Piriform and CCleaner at the time of this breach? (I haven't looked that up)
Yes, the breach was live in August-September. Avast purchased Piriform in July.
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@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
Most of the things it was removing are security issues, viruses, malware, keylogger etc. It's always been a security appliance.
It never did any of that. None. It still doesn't remove any of the above. Just because some malicious software can sit in temp folder, it doesn't make an app that cleans temp files a security app.
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@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@dustinb3403 said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@coliver said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
@marcinozga said in Hackers Hid Backdoor In CCleaner Security App:
And since when CCleaner is a security app? Original name was crap cleaner if I remember correctly, and that's what it does, cleans crap. How does that relate to security?
It's owned by Avast, a security company. Since when does a security company provide malicious software? Then when they are found out try and cover up the tool and the extent of the infection?
Avast recently purchases Piriform (the original developers of CCleaner).
Correct. So Avast transversely owns CCleaner.
Did avast own Piriform and CCleaner at the time of this breach? (I haven't looked that up)
Yes, the breach was live in August-September. Avast purchased Piriform in July.
Than Avast is squarely to blame for it. Rather than having a leg to stand on of "This happened before/during we bought Piriform. . ."
Still no hash entries on ccleaner's website. I guess Avast doesn't care about security after all.
