Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?
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@scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
Pertino and ZeroTier are both full scale enterprise "standard" VPNs that have no need for routing tables for anything. It's actually quite uncommon to use routing tables in the SMB. You only need that when dealing with certain setups. Lots of VPNs work only at layer 2, so no routing at all.
VPNs are just encrypted tunnels.
So I think I agree. On one hand routing tables definitely matter, say in a site 2 site implementation and in any VPN where you are communicating with a remote network.
However I think about Himachi, which was a VPN of sorts that handled this in a totally different way. VPN isn't limited to TCP/IP. So I concede to your point.
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@bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
@scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
Pertino and ZeroTier are both full scale enterprise "standard" VPNs that have no need for routing tables for anything. It's actually quite uncommon to use routing tables in the SMB. You only need that when dealing with certain setups. Lots of VPNs work only at layer 2, so no routing at all.
VPNs are just encrypted tunnels.
So I think I agree. On one hand routing tables definitely matter, say in a site 2 site implementation and in any VPN where you are communicating with a remote network.
However I think about Himachi, which was a VPN of sorts that handled this in a totally different way. VPN isn't limited to TCP/IP. So I concede to your point.
himachi was definitely a VPN. Assuming it's IP block was large enough, no routing would be needed, but it's completely possible that it still would be needed. I really wonder what a broadcast domain looks like Pertino/Zero Tier/Himachi?
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@Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
I really wonder what a broadcast domain looks like Pertino/Zero Tier/Himachi?
Depends on what kind of broadcasts. If you mean Ethernet broadcasts, which is what most people mean (the ones that are limited by VLANs) then these VPNs don't affect them at all.
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@bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
On one hand routing tables definitely matter, say in a site 2 site implementation and in any VPN where you are communicating with a remote network.
They matter, certainly, they are just outside of the VPN scope. VPNs exist whether routing tables are there or not or whether they come into play or not.
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@scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
@bigbear said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
On one hand routing tables definitely matter, say in a site 2 site implementation and in any VPN where you are communicating with a remote network.
They matter, certainly, they are just outside of the VPN scope. VPNs exist whether routing tables are there or not or whether they come into play or not.
Agreed, I guess I am just coming around to accept what you originally postulated, that a VPN by definition isnt limited to the idea of connecting two routable networks. That VPN and SSL are very similar.
I had a guy years ago that used to confuse RDP and VPN, but not because of he knew what he was talking about. He just didn't understand what either of them were to begin with. So he was always telling me he was VPN'd in when in fact he was on our terminal server.
Now I am like...
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@scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
@Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
I really wonder what a broadcast domain looks like Pertino/Zero Tier/Himachi?
Depends on what kind of broadcasts. If you mean Ethernet broadcasts, which is what most people mean (the ones that are limited by VLANs) then these VPNs don't affect them at all.
So an ethernet broadcast storm could bring it down?
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@Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
@scottalanmiller said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
@Dashrender said in Has Windows 10 VDI Licensing changed yet?:
I really wonder what a broadcast domain looks like Pertino/Zero Tier/Himachi?
Depends on what kind of broadcasts. If you mean Ethernet broadcasts, which is what most people mean (the ones that are limited by VLANs) then these VPNs don't affect them at all.
So an ethernet broadcast storm could bring it down?
Ethernet broadcast storm can take down anything that is using Ethernet. What you are doing on top of Ethernet is irrelevant. But what do YOU mean by "bring it down?"
