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    • coliverC
      coliver @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

      Go NY!

      It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

      They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

      Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

        Go NY!

        It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

        They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

        Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

        Ha before a suit can be officially created the FCC has to post the file bill for the removal of NN rules. Which I don't think has happened yet.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

          Go NY!

          It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

          They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

          Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

          I just don't see that happening. At best the part about states not being able to have their own rules might be overturned though.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

            Go NY!

            It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

            They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

            Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

            I just don't see that happening.

            Don't see what happening?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

              Go NY!

              It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

              They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

              Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

              I just don't see that happening.

              Don't see what happening?

              The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

              No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

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              • coliverC
                coliver @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                Go NY!

                It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                I just don't see that happening.

                Don't see what happening?

                The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                  Go NY!

                  It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                  They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                  Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                  I just don't see that happening.

                  Don't see what happening?

                  The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                  No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                  I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                  What would the statue for that be?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                    Go NY!

                    It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                    They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                    Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                    I just don't see that happening.

                    Don't see what happening?

                    The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                    No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                    I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                    What would the statue for that be?

                    The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                      Go NY!

                      It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                      They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                      Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                      I just don't see that happening.

                      Don't see what happening?

                      The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                      No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                      I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                      What would the statue for that be?

                      The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                      Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                        Go NY!

                        It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                        They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                        Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                        I just don't see that happening.

                        Don't see what happening?

                        The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                        No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                        I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                        What would the statue for that be?

                        The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                        Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                        It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                          Go NY!

                          It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                          They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                          Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                          I just don't see that happening.

                          Don't see what happening?

                          The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                          No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                          I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                          What would the statue for that be?

                          The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                          Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                          It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

                          But I'm assuming the response need be nothing more than - go pound sand.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                            Go NY!

                            It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                            They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                            Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                            I just don't see that happening.

                            Don't see what happening?

                            The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                            No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                            I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                            What would the statue for that be?

                            The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                            Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                            It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

                            But I'm assuming the response need be nothing more than - go pound sand.

                            could be.. . lol

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                            • bigbearB
                              bigbear
                              last edited by

                              All I know is that I Like my Whopper without politics.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @bigbear
                                last edited by

                                @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                All I know is that I Like my Whopper without politics.

                                For those who haven't seen it yet.

                                Youtube Video

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  WOW - that's awesome!

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      WOW - that's awesome!

                                      It is funny, and their does need to be a law.

                                      I just don't believe all these big companies have such big hearts that they there isnt some other reach around going on for some other agenda.

                                      Meanwhile, why did the two closest Burger Kings disappear on me in the last 12 months? Now I gotta drive all the way to Springboro to get Whopper. They were also the fastest Burger Kings.

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                        Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                          Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                          Because we've already given billions to the large ISPs, just to have them back out and keep the money. Of course, it's government, so nobody should be surprised by this.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @bigbear
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                                            @bigbear said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            People are actively resigning from positions due to the amount of insanity that is taking place.

                                            Think about that too, what about under served markets? Where are there no programs to bolster small ISP's to build out in rural areas?

                                            There were programs at the federal and state levels. NYS offered a silly amount of money to ISPs to expand. They took the money and pocketed it. The AG is suing right now for failure to hold up their end of the bargain.

                                            There was also the lifeline, I think that's what it was called, program to help rural and poor people pay for access to the internet. I think that could have been expanded... but it wasn't and instead has been cut back tremendously.

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