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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by Dashrender

      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

      @msff-amman-Itofficer said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

      Why use the one article that says use CloneZilla when the thousand others successfully used VMware Converter which is a freeware, just requires a sign in to download and if you dont want to do that, get it from here :

      http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/VMware-Converter.shtml

      I know most of us like to do things using CMD and open source tools, but if there is freeware from the top vendor in virtualization why not use that, CloneZilla was never meant to be P2V. Also you can convert the output VMDK file with Virtualbox vboxmanage tool to anything else, and it supports P2V local or remote target.

      VMware Converter is for moving to VMware ESXi, not XenServer. Has anyone tested it for going to another platform? I didn't even know that that was an option.

      This ^.

      But to answer @scottalanmiller question - in the search for a solution to this problem, I have run across many pages that talk about a multi-staged approach to migrating to XS. And that is something I am trying to avoid.

      People said the same thing to me in my 2008 P2V thread. Why are you using Clonezilla? Why not use XYZ and my answer then was that each time I read about using those tools, they always ended with - you might have to run some type of repair to get it to work. Well I was already in the repair mode on my Clonezilla based P2V, so why start over with a new tool just to end up in the same spot? But of course after 3 days of nearly no progress, I did break down and do as JB suggested had worked for him in the past - I created a Windows backup, which I then restored into XS, only to find myself at exactly the same trouble spot - BSOD 0x0000007B - something's wrong with your boot hardware. I did solve that by editing the registry and disabling the HP RAID drivers and enabling the ATAPI and IDE drivers.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @momurda
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        @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

        @scottalanmiller
        I have used vmware converter on stubborn p2v, then exported from esxi to ova and imported to XS.

        yeah this is the process I've read about over and over - sadly I don't have enough storage on my current ESXi host to accommodate a conversion there.

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        • momurdaM
          momurda
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          Have you tried doing the same sort of process you did with your 2k8 server the other day? Are you able to load the registry at all?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

            I found a thread that mentioned that the user couldn't get a P2V to work in XS until they fully expanded the thin provisioned disk, then restored the image would boot.

            I've made a copy of the boot drive and am using dd to expand the drive and will try to restore.

             dd if=/dev/zero of=filename bs=$((1024*1024)) count=$((10*1024))
            

            This will create a 10 GB file.

            OK I filled the disk 100% (I assume this fully expanded it - suppose I could get into the XS console and go looking at the VDI files to make sure it actually reports the correct size).

            Restored using Clonezilla - black screen 😞

            Trying fixboot, etc.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @momurda
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              @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

              Have you tried doing the same sort of process you did with your 2k8 server the other day? Are you able to load the registry at all?

              Yes I did - I found that my 2003 server was (I think) missing one of the IDE drivers, so I put it in c:\windows\system32\drivers but that didn't help. I checked the registry, all looked well there.

              The fact that it booted when using the boot sector from the Hirem CD implies to me that the boot sector in the VDI isn't properly pointing to the ntldr, so it's not booting. Somehow the boot to local media option of Hirem's CD gets past the hurtle and allows the system to boot.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                This is a failed boot with no ISO attached.
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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  This is what a failed boot with a bootable ISO attached looks like
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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    Fixboot - reboot

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                    Fixmbr - reboot

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                    bootcfg /rebuild

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
                      last edited by momurda

                      Oh i just noticed. Did this physical server have more than 1 cpu or 1 cpu core? Your vm is setup as only 1 vcpu. This could be a problem.
                      If it only had the one cpu... a bit incredible it can read just fine but wont boot. Long shot, but do you have a win2k3 cd/dvd? can you load that and try a Repair Installation? Like the days of yore with xp, that option worked wonders for me fixing things like this.

                      edit: server not vm

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                      • Emad RE
                        Emad R @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender

                        Not sure if your solve the issue yet, but since you mentioned it boots fine using Hiren

                        Can you try this :

                        http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/

                        Can you boot the VM from it, if so then you can install it as boot loader.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @momurda
                          last edited by

                          @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                          Oh i just noticed. Did this physical vm have more than 1 cpu or 1 cpu core? Your vm is setup as only 1 vcpu. This could be a problem.
                          If it only had the one cpu... a bit incredible it can read just fine but wont boot. Long shot, but do you have a win2k3 cd/dvd? can you load that and try a Repair Installation? Like the days of yore with xp, that option worked wonders for me fixing things like this.

                          My physical server is 2 socket, 2 core per
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                          My VM settings are:
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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @momurda
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                            @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                            Your vm is setup as only 1 vcpu.

                            Good catch seeing this on the BIOS screen inside the VM - but I ask WTH? I have the VM setup as a dual socket dual core system.

                            QMmKrTj.png

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                              @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                              Your vm is setup as only 1 vcpu.

                              Good catch seeing this on the BIOS screen inside the VM - but I ask WTH? I have the VM setup as a dual socket dual core system.

                              QMmKrTj.png

                              In thinking about this - I don't think this is the issue either though - I think it's before this.
                              I found this link
                              https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/325375/how-to-troubleshoot-startup-problems-in-windows-server-2003

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                              • momurdaM
                                momurda
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                                Hmmm.
                                Ok if you can get the thing to boot with Hiren's, what does your windows say the cpu count is when that happens?
                                Have you tried Safe Mode yet?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @momurda
                                  last edited by

                                  @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                                  Hmmm.
                                  Have you tried Safe Mode yet?

                                  I can't press F8 fast enough - or the system isn't reaching that part before it freezes.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    Have you tried another clean clone? Boot up the hardware, let it settle, cleanly shut it off, then re-image it.

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                                    • momurdaM
                                      momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      Also can you boot from Hirens then run msconfig and check all boot paths?
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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @momurda
                                        last edited by

                                        @momurda said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                                        Hmmm.
                                        Ok if you can get the thing to boot with Hiren's, what does your windows say the cpu count is when that happens?

                                        It sees 4 CPUs inside the VM
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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                          last edited by

                                          @MattSpeller I don't understand?

                                          I installed a brand new VM from the CD of 2003, and that works just fine on XS 7.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2003 P2V adventures:

                                            @MattSpeller I don't understand?

                                            I installed a brand new VM from the CD of 2003, and that works just fine on XS 7.

                                            Right, but it fails when you try to restore from your backup... what if it's corrupt? I've had it happen with dodgy old crap before.

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