Cloud Provider...what to use
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Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
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Are you looking for VPS or DevOps style? You need to figure out the goal before selecting candidates.
Yup, looking for a VPS
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@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
Ideally Windows yes
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@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
Unless you have an Azure requirement, that really shouldn't make the list. Hard to use, expensive, fragile, complex, buggy, poor support... no upsides except unique features. How did this make the short list?
I guess I like Azure because it's Microsoft! But having played a bit with it share your feelings about it
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Are you looking for VPS or DevOps style? You need to figure out the goal before selecting candidates.
Yup, looking for a VPS
That rules out AWS and Azure. They don't offer that.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
Ideally Windows yes
That rules out Digital Ocean.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
Unless you have an Azure requirement, that really shouldn't make the list. Hard to use, expensive, fragile, complex, buggy, poor support... no upsides except unique features. How did this make the short list?
I guess I like Azure because it's Microsoft! But having played a bit with it share your feelings about it
Why would that make you like it? I like MIcrosoft, but they aren't a datacentre company and they aren't all that good at it. They make it expensive and poor.
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So given your requirements and list, it's easy. Rackspace is the only option. You don't even need to make the decision, it's literally the only option.
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Now that the thread itself is answered, that was an easy one, the question should be... why are you looking at Windows on cloud computing? This will typically quadruple your costs. Windows is painfully expensive when you move to cloud, nowhere is it more apparent than when the flat, monthly bill is astronomic for something that should be dirt cheap.
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Just to give a comparison... Windows workload on Azure moved to Linux workload on Digital Ocean for us was something like $80 to $10 per month, per workload. That's 800% savings!!
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Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
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@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
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Windows is very expensive to run in a cloud environment Besides Azure, I'm not sure who can even do it legally.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
It won't be SUPER simple, but it won't be hugely painful either. there are a ton of guides online that walk you through all of the steps for most anything you want to do.
So starting with your first project, UBNT controller - what OS do you want to run it on in the cloud? If you're to go Linux, look on the UBNT website for suggestions on what OS of Linux is generally supported by UBNT, then setup one of those in a VPS.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
Depends what you need, Linux itself is pretty easy. The product in question is a question about the product, not Linux.
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@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Windows is very expensive to run in a cloud environment Besides Azure, I'm not sure who can even do it legally.
Rackspace, AWS. Anyone that offers it, except Cloud@Cost. They are the only illegal provider I've ever heard of.
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@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Windows is very expensive to run
I fixed that for you
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Rackspace is bloody awful! Why are they even on this list?
Expensive and clueless sales reps, support who can't fix simple issues and a brand name that they keep trying to cash in on is about the only thing they have.
https://www.scaleway.com/ - Based in France. Used to use them a lot but then moved onto.
https://www.ovh.co.uk/ - Everybody has heard of them and knows of them.
I've got a hosted Unifi controller but I would never run it on Windows. You spend half the time trying to force Unifi controller to run as a service, behave and various other things. Use this as a chance to learn Linux, you'll save a fortune in hosted services for things like this down the line and gain a good skill set.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
So given your requirements and list, it's easy. Rackspace is the only option. You don't even need to make the decision, it's literally the only option.
Why Why Why....They charge a premium for everything and really don't add value.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
I've got a hosted Unifi controller but I would never run it on Windows. You spend half the time trying to force Unifi controller to run as a service, behave and various other things. Use this as a chance to learn Linux, you'll save a fortune in hosted services for things like this down the line and gain a good skill set.
I have a unifi controller setup on an Ubuntu box. The setup was not difficult, and it just works. I migrated it away from a windows box. Like SAM said it will cost you alot less on Linux.
Now for hosting I have been using profitbricks. I have really enjoyed the support they offer.
Their billing model is based on (cpu\hr + win liscense\hr) x Ram (qty\hr) x storage (30days)
It is very easy to work with. Takes less than 2 mins to create a new server.
All storage is raid 10 and they have multiple datacenter here in the US, as well as in Germany.
Just my thoughts
Chad
