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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      We sadly still have an internal app that I think only uses it for something on the start up page, but otherwise doesn't. Getting rid of Flash would mean constant nags to the user about installing flash, even though it's not needed for the site.

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        A Former User @technobabble
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        @technobabble said:

        I have been able to get most of my clients off of Java, but not installing Flash causes too many tickets, mostly from the client installing from rogue sources!

        Why do they have admin rights?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          We sadly still have an internal app that I think only uses it for something on the start up page, but otherwise doesn't. Getting rid of Flash would mean constant nags to the user about installing flash, even though it's not needed for the site.

          Seems like a few minutes of effort would fix that.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            We sadly still have an internal app that I think only uses it for something on the start up page, but otherwise doesn't. Getting rid of Flash would mean constant nags to the user about installing flash, even though it's not needed for the site.

            Seems like a few minutes of effort would fix that.

            oh? I'll admit I know next to nothing about programming webpages. It might be a few mins for you, but days or more for me.

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              A Former User @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              We sadly still have an internal app that I think only uses it for something on the start up page, but otherwise doesn't. Getting rid of Flash would mean constant nags to the user about installing flash, even though it's not needed for the site.

              Seems like a few minutes of effort would fix that.

              oh? I'll admit I know next to nothing about programming webpages. It might be a few mins for you, but days or more for me.

              Just remove the code that's embedding the flash or redirect it to another page so there is no start page.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                XML is very straightforward. There is no programming involved (unless your site is completely dynamically generated.) It's just markup. So like editing a CSV or a Word document manually. Just look for the line and delete. I have to edit XML by hand so often for so many different things, how do you avoid that?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  XML is very straightforward. There is no programming involved (unless your site is completely dynamically generated.) It's just markup. So like editing a CSV or a Word document manually. Just look for the line and delete. I have to edit XML by hand so often for so many different things, how do you avoid that?

                  Because I don't manage any websites except our Wiki.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    XML is very straightforward. There is no programming involved (unless your site is completely dynamically generated.) It's just markup. So like editing a CSV or a Word document manually. Just look for the line and delete. I have to edit XML by hand so often for so many different things, how do you avoid that?

                    Because I don't manage any websites except our Wiki.

                    I said XML, it's used broadly outside of web pages. I didn't suggest that you would know how to modify the website because you have lots of websites, just because XML editing is such a common task for so many things. Many applications require it, for example.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Either my situation is really rare, or SMBs don't have to deal with it that much.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
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                        I've always had to deal with XML Configs. a lot.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          I've always had to deal with XML Configs. a lot.

                          You also work for a HUGE company!

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                            A Former User @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            I've always had to deal with XML Configs. a lot.

                            You also work for a HUGE company!

                            Now. But I haven't always. I worked for government localities with under 300 employees before.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              Either my situation is really rare, or SMBs don't have to deal with it that much.

                              I've had to deal with it everywhere since XML came out in the early 2000s. It's so common. Been working with it all this week.

                              Do you use a lot of JSON or YAML instead?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                I've always had to deal with XML Configs. a lot.

                                You also work for a HUGE company!

                                This really is not a factor. If anything I would think that it was the opposite since XML is old now and generally not favoured but retained by Microsoft more than most major vendors and modern app design tends to use YAML or JSON.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  Now. But I haven't always. I worked for government localities with under 300 employees before.

                                  And I run into it working for tiny companies, not the big ones.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Either my situation is really rare, or SMBs don't have to deal with it that much.

                                    I've had to deal with it everywhere since XML came out in the early 2000s. It's so common. Been working with it all this week.

                                    Do you use a lot of JSON or YAML instead?

                                    I guess my job is just that much below you and yours - almost bench work more often that IT work as you'd put it...

                                    No I have almost never edited a JSON file and never heard of a YAML file.

                                    I have seen and edited XML files before, but... what... maybe 4-6 times ever... is so rare I couldn't tell you the last time I did it.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      Correct me if I'm wrong here, I think the point you're getting at hear is that it's no different than editing INI files - OK - I'll look into it and see if I can find the files and get rid of this prompt on my own (damn I'd just rather get rid of the software 😉 )

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        I find that it is in all the "little places." Third party apps, for example, running on Windows often need it. IIS configs use XML so it is super common in the Windows world.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          YAML = Yet Another Markup Language

                                          It was designed to replace XML because it is so much simpler than XML for humans to look at and edit. You find it heavily in Ruby applications but anything might use it. I believe that Spiceworks uses YAML.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            I think NGinx uses YAML, now that I think about it.

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