Airplane computer hacking
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Also between North and South America. We are using one for going between Argentina and Chile already. Considering doing one from Chile to the US.
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@Dashrender said:
I agree with Scott - I have a friend who flew to Spain to take a Disney cruise back to NY. Sounded like crossing the ocean to me.
Crossing the ocean isn't the real stated difference though, but it was a primary one until fairly recently. A lot of cruise liners have started to move a lot of their stuff toward the areas formerly occupied by ocean liners in order to better compete with each other, however still the primary differences are:
- Cruise liners are essentially theme parks with hulls
- A cruise liner is typically considered the vacation/event itself, where as an ocean liner is just a transport to the vacation/event.
- Ocean liners have a scheduled route for passengers to be dropped off, and sometimes that happens with cruise liners, but typically cruises it's just as a temporary stop for vacationers to see locales, not to disembark completely
- Ocean liners have better paid staff
- Ocean liners are built for general open ocean travel, but cruise liners typically stay at least fairly close to the shore (when possible) and this is because ocean liners are built with higher decks, very few balcony rooms, etc so they can better deal with rough waters.
- And because of the above, ocean liners tend to carry more food and water than cruise ships
Like I said, a lot of cruise ships are going in that direction in order to simply stand out from the "let's get drunk and sail around the edge of Mexico" type of thing cruise liners were originally and are still typically used for.
I've never been on a cruise ship, only ocean liners, but my wife and a former girlfriend have both been on cruise ships and they both have/had stated that the environment is different (calmer, more sober, less partying if any at all) and the calibre of people is different (way less white trash).
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I always though a Ocean liner has a destination IE it's a form of transportation.
Cruise liners are the destination IE they have all the needed attractions on board, with a few small shoping/sight seeing stops.
I've never been on either so I likely have no clue what I'm talking about
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I always though a Ocean liner has a destination IE it's a form of transportation.
Cruise liners are the destination IE they have all the needed attractions on board, with a few small shoping/sight seeing stops.
I've never been on either so I likely have no clue what I'm talking about
That's a good succinct description, I'd say it's fairly accurate, but there are other differences as well.
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I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
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@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Scott seems to get a lot of vacation time.. maybe we'd get tired of being on vacation if we had that much.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Scott seems to get a lot of vacation time.. maybe we'd get tired of being on vacation if we had that much.
Scott is so highly paid that he doesn't 'enjoy' normal employment (I'm guessing). He can choose what jobs he wants to work and for how long.. then take as much time off before a new one comes along... oh the life
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@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
Or run a pornography empire, I take a lot of vacation time but I also run things whilst on vacation as well.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@Dashrender said:
I can't imagine having enough vacation time that I would want to waste any of it on an Ocean Liner. If I'm going to Europe... I wanna fly so I'm there in one day... then spend my 2 weeks on the ground there.
Otherwise I'd be looking at 4 days there, 4 days back. and only 2-4 days on the land... I suppose if you just want to relax and read and be completely disconnected.. fine.. but that's not a vacation to me.. that would bore me out of my mind!
Or run a pornography empire, I take a lot of vacation time but I also run things whilst on vacation as well.
then you really aren't on vacation.
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@Dashrender said:
then you really aren't on vacation.
You sound like every woman that's left me for being a workaholic. I'm the type of person that can't ever relax, ever.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@Dashrender said:
then you really aren't on vacation.
You sound like every woman that's left me for being a workaholic. I'm the type of person that can't ever relax, ever.
HA! I completely understand... that said - I can relax.. but am fortunate enough to have a boss that demands when I'm off, that I'm off... when I was in europe a few years ago.. she threatened me when I was checking my email etc... as IT folk.. it's just something we do...
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@Dashrender said:
HA! I completely understand... that said - I can relax.. but am fortunate enough to have a boss that demands when I'm off, that I'm off... when I was in europe a few years ago.. she threatened me when I was checking my email etc... as IT folk.. it's just something we do...
I'd never do something like that to my employees, but I have with some suggested they do go on vacation, some get obsessed like me. They don't have to listen though. I realise there's a fear of burn out or possibly even breakdown, but so far the only people like that I've had are the border-line autistic types who seem to almost be more relaxed when working than "relaxing."
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It's a complete disconnect between career choices. And my situation is extremely rare. Hell in a one man shop I would think most IT personal would think they could never take a cruise or leave the country.... in this case I consider myself fortunate as I can and have done both.
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I've never been in a one man shop but, was always required to check email, and phone messages and have VPN access if available at every job I've had while on vacation.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I've never been in a one man shop but, was always required to check email, and phone messages and have VPN access if available at every job I've had while on vacation.
I think you can read more about one man shops in the Divine Comedy
