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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      Display port is more of a computer format than TV. 4k for TV is usually hdmi or 3g-sdi on professional stuff. Display port is easily converted to hdmi and vice-versa though.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
        last edited by

        Still makes it crap on boot though. I will wait for DP before I buy another 4k tv.

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        • ?
          A Former User
          last edited by

          Here you go DisplayPort http://shop.panasonic.com/presidentsday/TC-58AX800U.html

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          • ?
            A Former User @MattSpeller
            last edited by A Former User

            @MattSpeller said:

            Still makes it crap on boot though. I will wait for DP before I buy another 4k tv.

            Might be the TVs scaling stuff rather than the HDMI causing it.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by

              You gotta realize you are buying a TV and not a monitor. Sure the TV can function perfectly as a monitor, but that is not what was in mind when it was designed. A Display Port will not help 90% of the people who buy it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said:

                You gotta realize you are buying a TV and not a monitor.

                Even midrange TVs were designated as monitors up to twenty years ago.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  Why do you say that?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Why do you say that?

                    Because they were, lol. Why else? Anything from a Sony Trinitron or higher was sold as a monitor, not a TV. It was a designation about image replication intent.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @IRJ said:

                      You gotta realize you are buying a TV and not a monitor.

                      Even midrange TVs were designated as monitors up to twenty years ago.

                      My whole point was that a Display Port would not do the customer much good since most people don't use TVs as monitors. You have to remember that we are a techy bunch and do not represent the majority of consumers.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Why do you say that?

                        Because they were, lol. Why else? Anything from a Sony Trinitron or higher was sold as a monitor, not a TV. It was a designation about image replication intent.

                        I'd say higher end TVs this was mostly true on but not in general. Obviously anything with a VGA port on them were. With HDMI it definitely became more standard.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said:

                          You have to remember that we are a techy bunch and do not represent the majority of consumers.

                          No.

                          😉

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @IRJ said:

                            You gotta realize you are buying a TV and not a monitor.

                            Even midrange TVs were designated as monitors up to twenty years ago.

                            err. No. The pixel spacing will be different on a TV. They will cause more eye fatigue close up. Some people use them as that but, no they are not designed or designated as monitors unless it actually is just a monitor with a TV tuner built in.

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @A Former User
                              last edited by MattSpeller

                              @thecreativeone91 Pixel spacing? Like dots per inch? Higher on my 39" tv than a 22" 1080p

                              39" TV @ 4k

                              Horizontal resolution: pixels
                              Vertical resolution: pixels
                              Diagonal: inches (99.06cm)
                              Display size: 33.99" × 19.12" = 649.92in² (86.34cm × 48.57cm = 4193.04cm²) at 112.97 PPI, 0.2248mm dot pitch 12762 PPI²

                              22" lcd 1080p

                              Horizontal resolution: pixels
                              Vertical resolution: pixels
                              Diagonal: inches (55.88cm)
                              Display size: 19.17" × 10.79" = 206.81in² (48.7cm × 27.4cm = 1334.28cm²) at100.13 PPI, 0.2537mm dot pitch, 10026 PPI²

                              They are all just monitors with TV tuners built in from an electronics stand point. I don't see your point man.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @thecreativeone91 Pixel spacing? Like dots per inch? Higher on my 39" tv than a 22" 1080p

                                39" TV @ 4k

                                Horizontal resolution: pixels
                                Vertical resolution: pixels
                                Diagonal: inches (99.06cm)
                                Display size: 33.99" × 19.12" = 649.92in² (86.34cm × 48.57cm = 4193.04cm²) at 112.97 PPI, 0.2248mm dot pitch 12762 PPI²

                                22" lcd 1080p

                                Horizontal resolution: pixels
                                Vertical resolution: pixels
                                Diagonal: inches (55.88cm)
                                Display size: 19.17" × 10.79" = 206.81in² (48.7cm × 27.4cm = 1334.28cm²) at100.13 PPI, 0.2537mm dot pitch, 10026 PPI²

                                They are all just monitors with TV tuners built in from an electronics stand point. I don't see your point man.

                                Your comparing two different resolutions. Also keep in mind TVs aren't mean to produce clear text close up. They are designed for distance viewing.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @thecreativeone91 Dude there's no difference - the same panels are used on TV's as are in Monitors. They package them differently and skip the tuner.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 Dude there's no difference - the same panels are used on TV's as are in Monitors. They package them differently and skip the tuner.

                                    With regards to LCD's you're right, and since most TV's today are LCD the logic applies in general. 🙂

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @thecreativeone91 Dude there's no difference - the same panels are used on TV's as are in Monitors. They package them differently and skip the tuner.

                                      With regards to LCD's you're right, and since most TV's today are LCD the logic applies in general. 🙂

                                      It depends on the TV you buy. Also the scalers and processors in the TVs can greatly affect the look of text. Computer monitors have no scalers for the most part.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Don't the scalers typically disable when there is no scaling to do? One would hope.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Don't the scalers typically disable when there is no scaling to do? One would hope.

                                          to some degree. But, they are still there an affecting the signal. Hence why most tv's even today have over/over scan issues. Going from CRT to LCD was suppose to fix that, since they are more predictable but it didn't. High end $4-6k tv's gennerally do much better about it though.

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