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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Is it a pain? Yeah, it's a huge pain. Should they do it? Probably not, but that's the benefit you get when your customers say things like "We have no option to run without Microsoft." Once management considers your products a "no questions asked" product, you get to have audits like this as part of the use agreement. And most companies actually do believe, and maybe it is often true, that Microsoft can't be replaced. So they act accordingly.

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        Where can I find a copy of the agreement?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          http://www.scottandscottllp.com/main/microsoft_sam_audit_by_another_name.aspx

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            Where can I find a copy of the agreement?

            It would be whatever one you agreed to when setting up the Volume License agreement. It's different for different companies. Your corporate council should have it on file.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Well worth reading:

              http://www.cio.com/article/2452991/microsoft-office/no-one-is-immune-to-microsofts-software-audits.html

              Microsoft is auditing its customers at a brisk pace, and no company is immune. All software vendors retain the rights to audit their clients, and we feel that it is fair to expect these periodic compliance checks. But Microsoft is auditing customers at a 2 to 1 rate over other vendors like Adobe, IBM, and Oracle—58% of executives surveyed said they have been audited by Microsoft in the last 12 months.*

              That means that a normal company is audited more than every two years!

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              • scottalanmillerS
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                From the article:

                Also, keep in mind that while SAM is indeed a compliance check, it also must be an ongoing mission. And it is not strictly an IT affair. Real ongoing asset management must also involve:

                • Purchasing standards
                • Active and continual allocation, de-allocation, and re-allocation of software assets
                • Executive buy-in and enforcement of asset management policies (or it simply won’t work)
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                  Carnival Boy
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                  What's a corporate council?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                    What's a corporate council?

                    That's the US term, at least, for your senior attorney, the lawyer who oversees the business' legal affairs.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I suppose CLO would often be a better term (Chief Legal Officer) but I have never seen that used before. But corporate counsel is normally part of the C suite.

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                        Carnival Boy
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                        Well, he definitely doesn't have a copy of any agreements.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          These days, sadly, the top skill needed work working with Microsoft products is legal and licensing skills, not technical ones. I think more companies need a good understanding of the actual cost, overhead and risk involved in choosing to work with Microsoft products. Most would still chose them, but the skills and investment that they put into tracking them would be different.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            Well, he definitely doesn't have a copy of any agreements.

                            Who agreed to the volume license agreements then?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              I suspect it is in the EULA as well.

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                                Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Carnival-Boy said:

                                Well, he definitely doesn't have a copy of any agreements.

                                Who agreed to the volume license agreements then?

                                Me.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  Well, he definitely doesn't have a copy of any agreements.

                                  Who agreed to the volume license agreements then?

                                  Me.

                                  I don't suppose that you have a copy?

                                  I think that if you log into the volume license center than you can get a copy of it, but I am just guessing.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Also check the EULA, might just be in there.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      This is a big reason why, when dealing with brand new companies, I try to make them think VERY carefully about if they need Windows. The penalty is huge.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        If you use tons of Windows, the penalty is small overall. But bringing in that one Windows server in an otherwise Windows free shop can create a lot of overhead.

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                                          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          I think that if you log into the volume license center than you can get a copy of it, but I am just guessing.

                                          I assumed so, that's why I asked how to get it as I couldn't find it. But I've found it now. Or at least, I've found a copy of our Open Licence Agreement. But I can't find anything there that say Microsoft can audit everything - even non-Microsoft software and hardware. Where did you get this information from? Are you sure you didn't dream it?

                                          All I can see on auditing is this passage:

                                          1. Verifying compliance.

                                          Customer must keep all usual and proper records relating to the Products Customer runs. Microsoft may request that Customer conduct an internal audit of all Microsoft Products in use throughout Customer’s organization, comparing the number of Products in use to the number of effective Licenses issued in Customer’s name. Following any audit, Customer agrees to deliver to Microsoft a written statement signed by its authorized representative, certifying that either (1) Customer has sufficient Licenses to permit all usage disclosed by the audit, or (2) Customer has ordered sufficient Licenses to permit all usage disclosed by the audit. By requesting an audit, Microsoft does not waive its rights to enforce this agreement or to protect Microsoft’s intellectual property by any other means permitted by law, including conducting an onsite audit.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            I think that if you log into the volume license center than you can get a copy of it, but I am just guessing.

                                            I assumed so, that's why I asked how to get it as I couldn't find it. But I've found it now. Or at least, I've found a copy of our Open Licence Agreement. But I can't find anything there that say Microsoft can audit everything - even non-Microsoft software and hardware. Where did you get this information from? Are you sure you didn't dream it?

                                            All I can see on auditing is this passage:

                                            1. Verifying compliance.

                                            Customer must keep all usual and proper records relating to the Products Customer runs. Microsoft may request that Customer conduct an internal audit of all Microsoft Products in use throughout Customer’s organization, comparing the number of Products in use to the number of effective Licenses issued in Customer’s name. Following any audit, Customer agrees to deliver to Microsoft a written statement signed by its authorized representative, certifying that either (1) Customer has sufficient Licenses to permit all usage disclosed by the audit, or (2) Customer has ordered sufficient Licenses to permit all usage disclosed by the audit. By requesting an audit, Microsoft does not waive its rights to enforce this agreement or to protect Microsoft’s intellectual property by any other means permitted by law, including conducting an onsite audit.

                                            Doesn't that cover the scenario? You are being asked to do the former in the hopes of avoiding the latter?

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