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    • Mike RalstonM
      Mike Ralston
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      So I've got an instance of FreeNAS spun up, with the ZFS volume mounted, and a Windows (CIFS) setup, and it is accessible via the Web UI (reached by entering the server's IP). Everything on my network can see the FreeNAS as a device, but the connection is denied from all other PCs and Macs. Guest logging is enabled, and full Read/Write is enabled as well. To connect to it, I've been trying from both the Homegroup tab, and by navigating to \\IP\Drive\CIFS Partition

      Any advice on how to get this to work?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        First.... why FreeNAS? It's just a lesser version of FreeBSD. Which begs the second question, why FreeBSD, it's not ideal as a storage platform.

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        • coliverC
          coliver
          last edited by

          I'm sure you've already seen this post but it may help to double-check your work:
          https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/cifs-windows-sharing-guide.20948/

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            This is where FreeNAS sucks, more complicated than just using FreeBSD to troubleshoot. You have to know more to do basic tasks.

            Have you checked the firewall to ensure that the ports are open?

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            • Mike RalstonM
              Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller FreeNAS is more consumer friendly. Going to be using this NAS for Pictures, Music, and Videos, so I figured that FreeNAS was the better choice. Firewall ports are open (It's also on the LAN).

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                last edited by

                @Mike-Ralston said:

                @scottalanmiller FreeNAS is more consumer friendly.

                You've missed my extensive writing on why it's less consumer friendly 🙂 It's like a front wheel drive car. It's easy to sell to people as consumer friendly because it seems easy to drive when things are going well. What it lacks is consumer friendliness when things go wrong - when things matter. Like a front wheel drive car, it is easy to go fast in the snow, but when a kid is in the road in front of you and you need to slow down, a front wheel car wants to go into a spin.

                FreeNAS is easy to install and horrendous to fix. Way better to be a little harder to set up and easier to fix once up and running. Speed to setup is mostly pointless, time to repair is what matters. FreeNAS gives the impression of consumer friendliness, but not the reality.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Mike-Ralston said:

                  @scottalanmiller FreeNAS is more consumer friendly.

                  You've missed my extensive writing on why it's less consumer friendly 🙂 It's like a front wheel drive car. It's easy to sell to people as consumer friendly because it seems easy to drive when things are going well. What it lacks is consumer friendliness when things go wrong - when things matter. Like a front wheel drive car, it is easy to go fast in the snow, but when a kid is in the road in front of you and you need to slow down, a front wheel car wants to go into a spin.

                  Off topic... but I love the analogy. I'm going to steal it.

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                  • Mike RalstonM
                    Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller Hmm. Well, I suppose I can do FreeBSD then, but I do want to know what I'm doing wrong here, first.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                      last edited by

                      @Mike-Ralston said:

                      @scottalanmiller Going to be using this NAS for Pictures, Music, and Videos, so I figured that FreeNAS was the better choice.

                      Having looking into this a lot, I know of no use case where FreeNAS is the best choice. Because for reliability you must be more of a FreeBSD expert than you need to be to use FreeBSD reliably, it fails in every use case.

                      FreeBSD itself is not nearly as well known as Linux. And Linux is overall better for storage (FreeBSD is better for networking.) So FreeNAS isn't just extra hard on its own, but it introduces FreeBSD making things harder still.

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                      • Mike RalstonM
                        Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller But does FreeBSD also support AFP, NFS, and CIFS compatibility?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          For personal use, it only matters so much. It's up to you what you want to do with the storage. But I would advice against FreeNAS. No real upsides and leaves you hanging when you need assistance the most.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            A big advantage to using Linux or FreeBSD directly is that the experience equates directly to something very useful for IT in general. Using FreeNAS doesn't really train you on business gear so you don't get the personal enrichment value that a project like this can bring.

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                            • Mike RalstonM
                              Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by Mike Ralston

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                              It's another type of system I can work with, so I'll figure out what I did wrong with this one, and then do the other.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                                last edited by

                                @Mike-Ralston said:

                                It's another type of system I can work with, so I'll figure out what I did wrong with this one, and then do the other.

                                Sure, all learning is good learning. Some is more efficient though. If you want to learn the most, do straight FreeBSD and then OpenSuse.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  I like FreeBSD myself. Never used FreeNAS in a buinsess environment. If you are going with something that simple it usually will end up being just a windows file server based NAS.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    I'd look at GlusterFS on centos over freenas

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      I'd look at GlusterFS on centos over freenas

                                      If building a cluster, definitely.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        I like FreeBSD myself.

                                        I love it, just not for storage tasks generally. It's its one major architectural weak point.

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                                        • Mike RalstonM
                                          Mike Ralston @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          I'm sure you've already seen this post but it may help to double-check your work:
                                          https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/cifs-windows-sharing-guide.20948/

                                          I followed all of these steps, and everything looks to be set up properly, except, I can't enable the CIFS service, and it doesn't tell me why. It just says "This Service Could Not Be Started".

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Mike Ralston
                                            last edited by

                                            @Mike-Ralston said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            I'm sure you've already seen this post but it may help to double-check your work:
                                            https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/cifs-windows-sharing-guide.20948/

                                            I followed all of these steps, and everything looks to be set up properly, except, I can't enable the CIFS service, and it doesn't tell me why. It just says "This Service Could Not Be Started".

                                            If I remember correctly that means that something is wrong with your config file. I haven't worked with CIFS shares on Linux in a while... Can you look into the log and see if there is an issue there? Generally it says the line number an error occurred on.

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