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    How HTTP/2 will make the Web Faster

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    • lanceL
      lance
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      https://cascadingmedia.com/insites/2015/03/http-2.html

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        Hopefully it's backwards compatible and scales for things like cellular device which may have a slow connection. This is the first I've heard of http v2

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          It has been in the works for a long time.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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            @thecreativeone91 said:

            Hopefully it's backwards compatible

            Quote: The primary objective of HTTP/2 is to maintain high-level compatibility with HTTP/1.1, while decreasing latency.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              HTTP 2 will replace SPDY as well, thankfully:

              Since late 2009 Google has been developing an experimental protocol called SPDY (pronounced speedy). SPDY is a trademark of Google and not an acronym. HTTP/2 was originally based on the SPDY experiment. In fact, many SPDY core developers were involved in the development of HTTP/2. As of February 2015, Google announced support for SPDY would be deprecated in favor of HTTP/2 and then completely withdrawn in 2016.

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              • scottalanmillerS
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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Interesting...

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    HTTP 2 is stateful, which is a huge change. Something that we have really needed.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      won't this make proxy servers harder and need more resources? Granted anymore I'd rather use lightweight dns filtering.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        won't this make proxy servers harder and need more resources? Granted anymore I'd rather use lightweight dns filtering.

                        Harder, yes. Need more resources, no. Should need less.

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                        • coliverC
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                          Wouldn't this make things like DDOS attacks easier? Since the connection remains open for what I assume is additional content.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            Wouldn't this make things like DDOS attacks easier? Since the connection remains open for what I assume is additional content.

                            Harder, because the client can close the connection and refuse more. Only a little harder, but harder. Nothing can force the client to keep it open.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              won't this make proxy servers harder and need more resources? Granted anymore I'd rather use lightweight dns filtering.

                              Why would you need more resources? Assuming the connection is not encrypted everything works exactly like it does today, and those that are encrypted already can't use proxies (unless you install a cert to cause a man in the middle) nor can you use caching servers... that's probably the worst part about encryption.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                won't this make proxy servers harder and need more resources? Granted anymore I'd rather use lightweight dns filtering.

                                Why would you need more resources? Assuming the connection is not encrypted everything works exactly like it does today, and those that are encrypted already can't use proxies (unless you install a cert to cause a man in the middle) nor can you use caching servers... that's probably the worst part about encryption.

                                More activity going on at once with http2 and more open connections.

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                                • tonyshowoffT
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                                  This is all well and good, but surely we're going to bring back gopher right? I mean, I see all those people on SW talking about how web based apps are sort of a fad and people will want to go back to using clunky ass installers requiring libraries and also keeping all that up to date. So surely, maybe HTTP/2.0 is almost here, but the real hardcore, super serious users will want to use gopher, right? I mean it will offer "more control" over something or something.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @tonyshowoff
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                                    @tonyshowoff said:

                                    This is all well and good, but surely we're going to bring back gopher right? I mean, I see all those people on SW talking about how web based apps are sort of a fad and people will want to go back to using clunky ass installers requiring libraries and also keeping all that up to date. So surely, maybe HTTP/2.0 is almost here, but the real hardcore, super serious users will want to use gopher, right? I mean it will offer "more control" over something or something.

                                    Why don't we just make all applications in Machine code while were at it. Who needs to deal with the OS or frameworks. Just manage it all.

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                                    • tonyshowoffT
                                      tonyshowoff @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      Why don't we just make all applications in Machine code while were at it. Who needs to deal with the OS or frameworks. Just manage it all.

                                      That's the way nature intended, and enough already with this damn Internet fad, BBSes had a real sense of community, so let's turn off the Internet and go back to what truly matters... and 16bit.

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