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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      huh - great question.

      Perhaps it's my narrow way of thinking, but in general I considering something you install on an OS an app, regardless of what it does.... but in light of your question I can definitely see the other side of that argument.

      I guess I'm suggesting that if you plan to use Windows Server Core, that you make sure Core is one of the supported platforms for your "server/serving application."

      For example, many third party backup solutions won't run (at least in the past) on Core because they require the ability to interact with the desktop.

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      • ?
        A Former User @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        huh - great question.

        Perhaps it's my narrow way of thinking, but in general I considering something you install on an OS an app, regardless of what it does.... but in light of your question I can definitely see the other side of that argument.

        I guess I'm suggesting that if you plan to use Windows Server Core, that you make sure Core is one of the supported platforms for your "server/serving application."

        For example, many third party backup solutions won't run (at least in the past) on Core because they require the ability to interact with the desktop.

        Have you tried it before? You can still install many GUI applications on core by launching the EXE from the command line. UPS and Backup utilities usually work fine in server core.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @A Former User
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          @thecreativeone91 said:

          @Dashrender said:

          huh - great question.

          Perhaps it's my narrow way of thinking, but in general I considering something you install on an OS an app, regardless of what it does.... but in light of your question I can definitely see the other side of that argument.

          I guess I'm suggesting that if you plan to use Windows Server Core, that you make sure Core is one of the supported platforms for your "server/serving application."

          For example, many third party backup solutions won't run (at least in the past) on Core because they require the ability to interact with the desktop.

          Have you tried it before? You can still install many GUI applications on core by launching the EXE from the command line. UPS and Backup utilities usually work fine in server core.

          This is what I was going to mention. I'm not sure why they say Apps are recommended... many of them do work.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Not in many years, back when Core was first introduced... It's possible/likely that many vendors selling products meant to be installed on Windows Server now work with Core.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              This slightly confused me, but I assuming that SQL Server is a "server" and not an "application"? Ditto Dynamics Server. Whereas, SQL Server Management Studio is an application, and thus should never be installed on core.

              In Windows lingo, yeah. Apps have a GUI. The actual term does not imply that in any way.

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                A Former User @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Not in many users, back when Core was first introduced... It's possible/likely that many vendors selling products meant to be installed on Windows Server now work with Core.

                What applications are you referring? Most things that run on a server could care less if they are a gui or not as they primarily run as services. MS Dymanics is not supported on Core and I've never done it on core nor would I try it.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @A Former User
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                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Not in many users, back when Core was first introduced... It's possible/likely that many vendors selling products meant to be installed on Windows Server now work with Core.

                  What applications are you referring? Most things that run on a server could care less if they are a gui or not as they primarily run as services. MS Dymanics is not supported on Core and I've never done it on core nor would I try it.

                  Symantec Backup Exec wouldn't run on Core back in the 2008 R2 days. Yes a client would work to Core, but the main install couldn't go on a Core server.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Not in many users, back when Core was first introduced... It's possible/likely that many vendors selling products meant to be installed on Windows Server now work with Core.

                    What applications are you referring? Most things that run on a server could care less if they are a gui or not as they primarily run as services. MS Dymanics is not supported on Core and I've never done it on core nor would I try it.

                    Symantec Backup Exec wouldn't run on Core back in the 2008 R2 days. Yes a client would work to Core, but the main install couldn't go on a Core server.

                    Backup Exec, you mean the product that's always had lots of problems since symantec took it over. and they took years to even get server 2012 support. Backup Exec is a black sheep anymore.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom
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                      I ditto @coliver's comments. Server Manager makes things easy, especially if you have 8.1 Pro.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Not in many users, back when Core was first introduced... It's possible/likely that many vendors selling products meant to be installed on Windows Server now work with Core.

                        What applications are you referring? Most things that run on a server could care less if they are a gui or not as they primarily run as services. MS Dymanics is not supported on Core and I've never done it on core nor would I try it.

                        Symantec Backup Exec wouldn't run on Core back in the 2008 R2 days. Yes a client would work to Core, but the main install couldn't go on a Core server.

                        Backup Exec, you mean the product that's always had lots of problems since symantec took it over. and they took years to even get server 2012 support. Backup Exec is a black sheep anymore.

                        Yep I'm talking 5-6 years ago ....

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