Starting a job search
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If my girlfriend's job search is any indication (banking/mortgage industry), there are lots of jobs that don't advertise the possibility of remote work, but that have it available. And it's also been a numbers game, in that she has applied to dozens and dozens of jobs in order to get a handful of phone/in person interviews, and lots of those turn out to be bullshit. Seems like a numbers game (like online dating): apply to all the things, get a response 10% of the time, 10% of the responses are remotely legit jobs. Just her experience, it could be vastly different for your search for IT jobs, but it's something to consider.
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@RojoLoco said in Starting a job search:
If my girlfriend's job search is any indication (banking/mortgage industry), there are lots of jobs that don't advertise the possibility of remote work, but that have it available. And it's also been a numbers game, in that she has applied to dozens and dozens of jobs in order to get a handful of phone/in person interviews, and lots of those turn out to be bullshit. Seems like a numbers game (like online dating): apply to all the things, get a response 10% of the time, 10% of the responses are remotely legit jobs. Just her experience, it could be vastly different for your search for IT jobs, but it's something to consider.
Scott claimed that something like 80% of jobs posted are fake (maybe it was a much higher amount than that). That they are just resume gathering posts with nothing really behind them.
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@Dashrender Ugh, I have experience with that crap. You see a job post, click to apply, go through a stupid sign up process and end up being on some janky looking job finding website that noone has ever heard of.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
Is LinkedIn actually a useful platform? I deleted my account when MS bought it, but I didn't feel like I got any benefit from it at the time.
LinkedIn has been the only useful social media resource IMO. It may not be the best place for IT, but there is no better place to network. LinkedIn jobs have been real and relevant where I've found sites like career builder or monster to be a complete waste of time
The jobs I actually ever interviewed with were all from linkedin. All other places like career builder are garbage. Do not use career builder unless you want email and phone spam for jobs outside your career parh and location. It's absolutely ridiculous.
LinkedIn is the only one that has ever lead to anything.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
I have not seen a single job posting I would take a seriously on FB. Nothing about FB is to be taken seriously from what I have seen.
We actually use it and hire people that way.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller I've never heard of anyone getting a job using Facebook. How do you use Facebook for this?
They have a job posting mechanism. So you make a job posting, then go into a region and post it for like a city or town. Then they contact you and there is a "job candidate messaging system" for communicating back and forth with them.
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@Dashrender said in Starting a job search:
@RojoLoco said in Starting a job search:
If my girlfriend's job search is any indication (banking/mortgage industry), there are lots of jobs that don't advertise the possibility of remote work, but that have it available. And it's also been a numbers game, in that she has applied to dozens and dozens of jobs in order to get a handful of phone/in person interviews, and lots of those turn out to be bullshit. Seems like a numbers game (like online dating): apply to all the things, get a response 10% of the time, 10% of the responses are remotely legit jobs. Just her experience, it could be vastly different for your search for IT jobs, but it's something to consider.
Scott claimed that something like 80% of jobs posted are fake (maybe it was a much higher amount than that). That they are just resume gathering posts with nothing really behind them.
Talked about that with @mary this morning, because she was trying to figure out the math behind an impossible job posting (temp work, huge expertise, no way to support the work, almost no pay, etc.)
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@kamidon said in Starting a job search:
@Dashrender Ugh, I have experience with that crap. You see a job post, click to apply, go through a stupid sign up process and end up being on some janky looking job finding website that noone has ever heard of.
I've been to entirely fake in person interviews before. The value to fake job listings is really high.
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Work It Daily..... "If a job looks questionable, it's fake"
They made this a year after my channel did, and pretty much repeats exactly what I say.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Your best bet is to get 3 or 4 recruiters to look for you. Remember, you dont have to accept or agree to anything. Let them help you with your search. You may find them sending you unwanted stuff, but thats OK because they are somewhat of a filter
Hmm, I haven't had much luck with recruiters biting
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@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Your best bet is to get 3 or 4 recruiters to look for you. Remember, you dont have to accept or agree to anything. Let them help you with your search. You may find them sending you unwanted stuff, but thats OK because they are somewhat of a filter
Hmm, I haven't had much luck with recruiters biting
That's surprising. Especially now with the market being so good. It's hard to hire, at least in the US. Recruiters, you would think, would be desperate for candidates.
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@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
I see quite a few remote jobs that I think will just accept US applicants but they don't clarify in the posting.
Every job listing that I get doesn't list a city or state, let alone country. That "location" needs to be a top specification is surprisingly something recruiters haven't thought of.
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Your best bet is to get 3 or 4 recruiters to look for you. Remember, you dont have to accept or agree to anything. Let them help you with your search. You may find them sending you unwanted stuff, but thats OK because they are somewhat of a filter
Hmm, I haven't had much luck with recruiters biting
That's surprising. Especially now with the market being so good. It's hard to hire, at least in the US. Recruiters, you would think, would be desperate for candidates.
Recruiters are going crazy right now in US. You can't avoid them if you keep your resume somewhat current.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Your best bet is to get 3 or 4 recruiters to look for you. Remember, you dont have to accept or agree to anything. Let them help you with your search. You may find them sending you unwanted stuff, but thats OK because they are somewhat of a filter
Hmm, I haven't had much luck with recruiters biting
That's surprising. Especially now with the market being so good. It's hard to hire, at least in the US. Recruiters, you would think, would be desperate for candidates.
Recruiters are going crazy right now in US. You can't avoid them if you keep your resume somewhat current.
For sure.
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LinkedIn has been hugely successful for me. I've had recruiters from Google, Facebook, Amazon, F5 and may others reach out to me directly for roles. Turn on your setting Let recruiters know you’re open to opportunities and hopefully that should trigger a bunch of opportunities.
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@larsen161 said in Starting a job search:
Turn on your setting Let recruiters know you’re open to opportunities and hopefully that should trigger a bunch of opportunities.
You know all the tricks today. Had no idea that that feature existed.
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Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
I have had a much better success with legit recruiters on LI then any other platform by far.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
I have had a much better success with legit recruiters on LI then any other platform by far.
So far it's been horrible for me. Loads of scammy crap, sometimes from LinkedIn itself. I'm to a point where any contact on LI = spam, the nature of coming from there to me means it isn't legit.
