Building a Mail Server
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@Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:
If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.
Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?
Yes, and no business considers that an email solution. Yes, it technically sends and receives email, but in a nearly useless fashion.
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@brandon220 said in Building a Mail Server:
Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.
That does, actually. Anyone used them before?
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@Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:
If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.
Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?
Typically they only offer IMAP and POP, even a web interface is rare. It's normally very basic email, not "groupware" like most business mean with calendars and stuff. So you have to bring your own IMAP client.
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
@Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:
If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.
Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?
Yes, and no business considers that an email solution. Yes, it technically sends and receives email, but in a nearly useless fashion.
Yeah this is pretty much good enough for personal sites, but that's about it. You get mail and basic calendar and that's it. Very ugly web interfaces through cpanel mail
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@mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:
I dont have ad..
Actually you do. You have AzureAD.
@scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts .
But that is not Mail.
You are paying $12.50/month for Office365 Business Premium
- Outlook, Word, Excel, etc.
- Exchange Online
- Sharepoint, teams, ODfB, etc.
You could be paying a simple $4/user for Email (Exchange Online Plan 1).
In fact you could get EOP1 for $4 + O365 Business for $8.25 and only pay $12.25/user
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
@brandon220 said in Building a Mail Server:
Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.
That does, actually. Anyone used them before?
Wow, that's really affordable. Anyone used them bwfore? What's the GUI like? Does it have calendar and contacts?
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
@brandon220 said in Building a Mail Server:
Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.
That does, actually. Anyone used them before?
Are you trolling? Is this you?
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@JaredBusch said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
@brandon220 said in Building a Mail Server:
Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.
That does, actually. Anyone used them before?
Are you trolling? Is this you?
It is definitely not me. But easily could have been, lol. But if I was going to do that, it would be called MailBear.
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@scottalanmiller
https://iroute.io is another brand of the owner of MXroute . They use https://crossbox.io/ as a email web client and MailChannels to send emails.I haven't used MXroute nor iRoute but I know people that is a customer of the former (small amount of mailboxes) and they say that the service and support are great.
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@dave_c does mxroute use crossbox as well?
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@dave_c said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller
https://iroute.io is another brand of the owner of MXroute . They use https://crossbox.io/ as a email web client and MailChannels to send emails.I haven't used MXroute nor iRoute but I know people that is a customer of the former (small amount of mailboxes) and they say that the service and support are great.
Take it with a grain of salt.Crossbox looks pretty nice at a quick glance.
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I just signed up for MXroute. My order was flagged for review... So I emailed support and my email bounced... Not a great first impression...
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@Curtis said in Building a Mail Server:
I just signed up for MXroute. My order was flagged for review... So I emailed support and my email bounced... Not a great first impression...
The email bounced? WTF.
Maybe they went out of business? Did you manage to contact them in some other way?
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
Maybe they went out of business?
Why jump to such an extreme conclusion? :frowning_face: Perhaps @Curtis used an incorrect email address.
I just emailed them at [email protected] and received an immediate response.
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@Danp said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
Maybe they went out of business?
Why jump to such an extreme conclusion? :frowning_face:
Have you never talked to Scott before?
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@JaredBusch Yes... just trying to nicely call him out on his "bad behavior".
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@Danp said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
Maybe they went out of business?
Why jump to such an extreme conclusion? :frowning_face:
If the email is gone for an email company, it's a reasonable possibility. I didn't say that they did, I said it was a possibility, and it was a very real one. Especially with two things happening at once, both that their email was down and that they didn't create the account automatically which could suggest an automated system being left on.
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@Danp said in Building a Mail Server:
@JaredBusch Yes... just trying to nicely call him out on his "bad behavior".
It's not bad behaviour to point out what the decently likely possibilities are.
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@scottalanmiller You did nothing but jump to an illogical conclusion. I believe it's more likely that this was a user error. We don't know because the OP hasn't provided enough details. What email address did he use? Did the email truly bounce or was it rejected for some other reason?
Do you always assume that a company is out of business when you read an unverified claim that an email bounced? Do you always jump to wild conclusions before performing any due diligence? I would hope not... because that isn't very professional.
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@Danp said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller You did nothing but jump to an illogical conclusion. I believe it's more likely that this was a user error. We don't know because the OP hasn't provided enough details. What email address did he use? Did the email truly bounce or was it rejected for some other reason?
Do you always assume that a company is out of business when you read an unverified claim that an email bounced? Do you always jump to wild conclusions before performing any due diligence? I would hope not... because that isn't very professional.
I did not assume they were out of business. Who is jumping to conclusions here? I offered a possibility. A reasonable one.
I neither jumped, nor concluded.
