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    Replacing a Windows 2003 Terminal Server - RemoteApp, RDS, or Run over VPN?

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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      @NetworkNerd said:

      Epicor is pretty big about trying to strong arm people into going physical. Their hardware sizing guide recommends it, even after they re-wrote their app in .NET to run faster and more efficiently. I'm running ERP 9 virtual (which we went against them on), and it runs just fine. And ERP 10 will be even leaner, so I am certainly not worried there.

      Yeah look at this config..
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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        RemoteApp is an aspect of RDS.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          RemoteApp is an aspect of RDS.

          We know that.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            @NetworkNerd

            Yes you need the normal Windows CAL and then a RDS CAL for each RDS user. Epicor charged $115 for it.

            You could also get RDS Machine CAL instead. not sure on the pricing of those.

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            • NetworkNerdN
              NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @NetworkNerd

              Yes you need the normal Windows CAL and then a RDS CAL for each RDS user. Epicor charged $115 for it.

              You could also get RDS Machine CAL instead. not sure on the pricing of those.

              I remember Epicor trying to sell us the SQL licenses for 2014 / 2012 to use with their new ERP product, but with the runtime license (or whatever they call it), you get the full SQL but only license to use it for Epicor and nothing else. We have a few custom SQL databases in addition to the one for Epicor and had to get the full version.

              But if they can do RDS CALs for cheap we will definitely check it out. My guess is that would mean your RDS server is really only licensed to run Epicor and no other applications, but I do not know.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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                @NetworkNerd said:

                But if they can do RDS CALs for cheap we will definitely check it out. My guess is that would mean your RDS server is really only licensed to run Epicor and no other applications, but I do not know.

                This all standard Microsoft Open Licensing. I have the admin access to that account, so it is anything we want it to be.

                I quoted this against Epicor and lost because they wanted it all in one. Such a pain in the ass simply because the owners do not understand. That IS what they pay us to know. I mean of course, let Epicor set up Prohpet 21, but really I would have liked to setup the server myself and not be stuck with SQL1 and HV1 when there was already XXXXHV01, XXXXDC01, XXXXDC02 on the network....

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  @NetworkNerd My vendor quoted me $106 for the RDS CALS for a bid I recently sent to another potential client.

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                  • NetworkNerdN
                    NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @NetworkNerd My vendor quoted me $106 for the RDS CALS for a bid I recently sent to another potential client.

                    Yep - that's essentially what I am seeing in terms of price.

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                    • NetworkNerdN
                      NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      If a user does get really hosed, then you can always log in to a full RDP session as the user. It has been pretty rare for me at the client with the Dysel accounting system.

                      So do you direct your users to the site where the RemoteApp gets published to use to connect to it, or do you put a shortcut on their desktops for the RemoteApp as well? I'm assuming there is no difference in functionality but don't really know at this point.

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                      • NetworkNerdN
                        NetworkNerd @NetworkNerd
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                        Well, I have a shiny new RDS server built and somewhat working. RD Web Access seems to work fine to get into Epicor. Next I will need to test printing, saving PDFs to mapped drives, and probably look at SSO.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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                          @NetworkNerd said:

                          So do you direct your users to the site where the RemoteApp gets published to use to connect to it, or do you put a shortcut on their desktops for the RemoteApp as well? I'm assuming there is no difference in functionality but don't really know at this point.

                          I push a shortcut. You cannot trust users to find anything via direction.

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