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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

      @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

      @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

      @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

      @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

      @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

      Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

      And there is Wasabi.

      I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

      That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

      The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

      From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

      S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

      S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

      Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bbigford
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        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

        Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

        And there is Wasabi.

        I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

        That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

        The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

        From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

        S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

        S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

        Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

        Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

          @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

          @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

          @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

          @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

          @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

          @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

          @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

          Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

          And there is Wasabi.

          I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

          That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

          The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

          From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

          S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

          S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

          Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

          Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

          Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bbigford
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            @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

            @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

            @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

            @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

            @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

            @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

            Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

            And there is Wasabi.

            I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

            That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

            The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

            From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

            S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

            S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

            Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

            Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

            Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

            Right, that's Synology using it, not Wasabi. The tool is for "connecting to S3". It's definitely Amazon S3's logo. Why would Synology using it in any way cause legal trouble for Wasabi who didn't use it?

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

              @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

              @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

              @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

              @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

              @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

              @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

              @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

              @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

              @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

              Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

              And there is Wasabi.

              I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

              That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

              The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

              From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

              S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

              S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

              Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

              Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

              Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

              Right, that's Synology using it, not Wasabi. The tool is for "connecting to S3". It's definitely Amazon S3's logo. Why would Synology using it in any way cause legal trouble for Wasabi who didn't use it?

              It wouldn't. I misspoke in that regard now that I am thinking about it more.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                This is a very common use of logos. Company A offers something that is common from Company B. Company A uses Company B's logo to denote the use of the service.

                Example: You want to connect to an SMB share and the interface calls it a "Windows share" and shows a Windows logo to denote that it is a Windows API based service.

                But if you as the end user set up a Linux-based SMB file server, and put your Linux credentials into the tool, it will connect to Linux the same as Windows.

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @bbigford
                  last edited by

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                  @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                  Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

                  And there is Wasabi.

                  I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

                  That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

                  The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

                  From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

                  S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

                  S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

                  Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

                  Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

                  Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

                  Right, that's Synology using it, not Wasabi. The tool is for "connecting to S3". It's definitely Amazon S3's logo. Why would Synology using it in any way cause legal trouble for Wasabi who didn't use it?

                  It wouldn't. I misspoke in that regard now that I am thinking about it more.

                  Plus I'm hungover so I'm not firing on all cylinders today.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                    @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                    Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

                    And there is Wasabi.

                    I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

                    That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

                    The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

                    From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

                    S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

                    S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

                    Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

                    Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

                    Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

                    Right, that's Synology using it, not Wasabi. The tool is for "connecting to S3". It's definitely Amazon S3's logo. Why would Synology using it in any way cause legal trouble for Wasabi who didn't use it?

                    It wouldn't. I misspoke in that regard now that I am thinking about it more.

                    I dislike when they use logos like that. Because you can never tell if they mean it is integrated with the service, like the logo implies, or if it just uses a certain API that they are incorrectly associating.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I see it often with tools that do WebDAV. It's just a generic WebDAV interface, btu they label it after some random WebDAV provider, making it super confusing to figure out what it will work with.

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                        bbigford
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Synology cloud backups:

                        @bbigford said in Synology cloud backups:

                        Ended up just going with BackBlaze B2 for the cost.

                        And there is Wasabi.

                        I do like that company for many reasons other than cost. But what throws me off is the method to connect the appliance is to use AWS S3. Any idea why that is?

                        That's not what it says at all. You are seeing the S3 API being chosen and thinking of Amazon's S3 service. Wasabi is just S3 compatible, that's all. It doesn't require a special API like other services.

                        The logo is what is throwing me off. I'm assuming the S3 API was created by Amazon, but then they are just allowing other companies to use it?

                        From what I've read about S3, it isn't proprietary; which makes me think Amazon doesn't have any kind of patent on the tech...

                        S3 is a service. A patent isn't possible on a service. That's not how patents works. An API is an interface and can't be patented either. That would be like patenting a language.

                        S3 the product is totally proprietary. S3 the API must be public or it is useless.

                        Got it. Thanks for clarifying. The 3 block logo was throwing me off as I thought it would be somehow using specific stuff for AWS since that has appeared to be their branding/logo; obviously it isn't an issue or Wasabi would have legal issues to deal with.

                        Where are you seeing that? I'm poking around on Wasabi's site and don't see it used.

                        Sorry, on the Synology Cloud Sync tool.

                        Right, that's Synology using it, not Wasabi. The tool is for "connecting to S3". It's definitely Amazon S3's logo. Why would Synology using it in any way cause legal trouble for Wasabi who didn't use it?

                        It wouldn't. I misspoke in that regard now that I am thinking about it more.

                        I dislike when they use logos like that. Because you can never tell if they mean it is integrated with the service, like the logo implies, or if it just uses a certain API that they are incorrectly associating.

                        I fully agree with that.

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